Clockworks

Excellent availability at this time, we stock all Hermle units, with very few exceptions. Some special CM lengths maybe special order and cost, if its not on the charts then it most likely will have to be made up special for an extra $20, this is a special order so please call it in.

Hermle is the biggest movement producers in the world today. Not only do they have the most movements being made, but they also have the best part availability when you need a component such as a pendulum or a dial, or a complete clock kit.

Hermle units generally last 25 to as much as 35 years. We usually get calls to replace units that were built in the early 80's or late 70's. If you look at the back plate of the movement you will see a couple numbers above all the other numbers. You will see such as a 77 or an 83 or so on. This is the date the movement was built.

Replacing these units rather than getting them cleaned and oiled is usually the smart way to go as it is factory improved, brand new, factory lubricated, easy to install, and it will cost less than a cleaning. Keep in mind however that there are different grades of the same movement number, some are cheaper and contain plastic parts. The Hermle units that we offer here at hermle are the best grade available with no plastic components for a very reasonable price.

These markings among other names could be on the back plate of the movement.

UW before the movement number, this only means it is made by Urgos and nothing more.

This sounds a bit confusing but there is a simple way to identify if your movement is Urgos: If it is five numbers in a row, or less than five numbers with a / in it, and its made in Germany, it is an Urgos movement for sure.

We offer many of these movements for replacing old worn out units. The Urgos factory was bought out and they are only producing three train movements at this time. You can no longer get original Urgos clock components such as moon dials and Lyre pendulums for these units, unless a company like ours has old stock left over that is still new.

Any movement that starts off with a 32 such as 32/1 or 32319 is no problem, we have them in stock.

Any movement that starts off with double 6's, like 66020, is no problem, we usually have these also.

Now if the movement starts with a 3 or a 0, such as 03083 or 3/20, you will have to call and check availability on this one. You may end up leaving a deposit for it and waiting a couple of months for the unit as they sell out as soon as there in stock.

If the movement starts with a 22, forget it, you will not find it. All you can do is send it to us for repair or gut the case and start over with a Hermle kit, either way we can help.

If the movement starts with a 06 or a 6/ then this is not made anymore. Such as 6/56, this is unavailable and you would have two options open to you. One is to get the movement repaired. Or we can offer you a brand new movement that is "close" to the original but made by Hermle instead. Some changes may have to be made to the dial or chime block, please call and ask.

Kieninger often puts there name on the back of the movement, but sometimes uses the above names, and sometimes there is no name at all.

Kieninger could be considered tricky in determining the proper replacement if your not used to it. Best thing to do if you have one of these movements is to go to this link and follow the directions you see on that page.

As for the rest of the components in a Kieninger clock kit, some items are very hard to replace or get and others are easy. Basically the smaller the clock, the harder to get components for it. Example being, if you have a grandfather clock made by Kieninger and you wanted to replace the dial, this is easy. But then if you had a mantle clock, spring driven, and you wanted to change the dial, this would not be available and the dial would have to be custom punched for the winding arbors.

Any larger German movement that says PL on it, is a Jauch. Any movement that only has a stamp of 77 or 78 or something similar on the back plate, and very little more, is most likely a Jauch.

First option is to gut the case and give us a call so we can get you a complete Hermle clock kit with a dial, pendulum, chimeblock and everything for your case.

Or, in some instances we can provide a Hermle retrofit as its called. This means you would use one of our kits we put together to modify your existing components in the clock to work with a Hermle unit instead of Jauch, meaning there is less to purchase. This is the most popular thing to do, if its available for your particular Jauch movement.

When the clock says ST and made in USA, then this is the original antique Seth Thomas from CT. These movements are not available and neither are any internal parts for the movements. There are a couple options on getting the clock up and ticking, one of which is to replace the movement with a replacement from India if we have the same dimensions. This would of course make the clock lose any antique value if there is any. The other option is to send the movement in for a cleaning oiling and rebushing if needed.

When the clock says Seth Thomas and is made in Germany, this movement would usually be available from us. You would click the Seth Thomas link and find the numbers that are on your movement, and see what number it really is. Just follow the directions when you get to the link.

In reality the movements were usually made by Hermle, or the other three names on this list. Best to write down your clock movements number, then go to the Mason and Sullivan list and convert your number to the true manufactures number. The Availability of these movements are very good and usually in our inventory.