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1161-853 Hermle Clock Movement

1161 Hermle Clock MovementMVT NotesHermle IdentificationWhat Happened?Other Names UsedWhy get a new Hermle?

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1161 Hermle Clock Movement Notes

The 1161 Hermle Clock Movement Notes is written for information about the clock you own. These movements are great that is why there is so many made. They work night and day for 30 years without much complaint. So here is some information on these fine German made units.

Names on the Movement

The name maybe a number of makers on the movement, but it was made by Hermle not them. It may say Howard Miller, or Ridgeway, or Sligh, or many other names. If the number on the clock movement starts with 1161- its really made by the Hermle company. They let these companies to have there name on the movement instead of Hermle.

Chain or Cable Drive

This movement was made in both cable driven and also chain driven styles. The 1161-853 is the most popular and the most produced Grandfather clock movement in the world. When ordering a new movement it will come with the chains or cables with the pulleys.

Hermle movement 1161-853 Clock Weights

This clock movement takes three clock weights to run. The weights should be close to 8 or 10lbs, and does not have to be exact. Even though it does not have to be the exact weight, here is the exact weight specification from the factory. If the pendulum bob is less than 8 1/2 inches wide, it will take two at 7.7LBS and one at 9.9LBS. If the pendulum bob is 8 1/2 inches in diameter or larger, it takes two weights at 9.9LBS and one at 7.7LBS. Often they will have a 10 1/2 inch bob with the two at 7.7 and one at 9.9 and the customer says it ran 30 years like that.

Weight Placement

The placement for the clock weights on this series is the following. The heavy weight will go on your right as you face the clock if one heavy and two light. If you have two heavy weights and one light weight, the light one will go on your left as you face the clock. So what this means is the middle time train weight is variable light or heavy depending on pendulum bob diameter.

1161 Hermle Clock Movement Songs

This is a triple chime unit that plays out a melody on the quarter hours and then on the top of the hour it will strike out whatever times the hour is. The songs this one plays are your choice of the following. Westminster, Saint Micheal, or Wittington and also a silent option. For an additional cost is it able to have an auto night shut off switch (ANSO), this will make the clock quiet from 10pm to 7am on its own without your intervention.

The Support

Please note the factory will give you three years for the warranty. However we are clock makers here at Clockworks.com and we have been doing this sort of thing for a long time in this family (over 100 years of experience). If you have some sort of question or concern in whatever amount of time, we are not going to turn you down in response, we answer whatever questions you have even a decade later, it really does not matter. We take care of our customers in whatever way we can. The movement comes with instructions and any questions beyond the instructions can be emailed, chatted, or called in.

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Hermle Clock Movement Identification

Identification is done with the numbers on the back plate of the Hermle clock movement. Not from the manual that came with the clock and not off the wood case. On the back plate of the clock movement there are some numbers such as 451-050 94cm. These simple numbers indicate everything there is to know about the mechanical clock movement itself.

Identification is the first step

When the numbers are matched from old to new, the new movement can be ordered. The new movement will be the exact same and not a knock off. Therefore all of the existing clock components will fit just the same a it did before. Now troubleshooting can be done as well as part or movement ordering. When talking about the movement it will be clear what one is referred too.

A new Hermle clock movement is best

As discussed in a different section the new movement is the way to go. The new unit is a fraction of the price of an overhaul on the old one. The clock back and running in the shortest time instead of waiting months for the overhaul to be completed. The movement will last another 30 years without much complaint and this cant be said about a restored old unit.

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Mechanical Clock Movement Wear

Mechanical clock movement wear after years go by because the oil turns solid. With age, the mechanical clock movement's oil solidifies and becomes black and sticky. By the time 20 or 30 years go by, the oil has solidified and is creating wear on the movements brass plates.

What wear and where

If you look at your old clock movement, you will see holes in the brass plates where there are small pivot arbors sticking into these holes. These pivots are what the gears of the clock ride upon and as the pivots spin in the solidified oil, this makes the holes oblong instead of round. With the pivot holes oblong, the holes are pinching the pivots and creating resistance in the gear train. With the solidified oil and the pinched pivots, the clock will eventually stop working or chiming.

Invisible clock movement wear

This wear takes place in the holes that are in the brass plates and is hard to identify sometimes. These holes in the brass plates become oblong instead of round and this pinches the pivot arbor going into it. Between this, and the solid oil, the clock ceases to function. To have this repaired is an expensive and long process. To have a mechanical movement serviced can cost two times as much or even three times the amount of the new one.

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Hermle Clock Movement Aliases

Hermle produced clock movements and used aliases for names in a way. The movement could be stamped many names but really it will be made by Hermle. Some companies bought so many they were able to get there name on the movement instead of Hermle. The following is only a partial list of names that could be on the clock movement.

The best disguised Aliases

Seth Thomas also Mason and Sullivan had not only there name, also there own internal numbering system. This was stamped on the movement, instead of the Hermle number. Since it is not a Hermle number, the number would need to be converted to what the real number is . This is done with the Mason and Sullivan chart, or the Seth Thomas conversion Chart. However the Seth Thomas chart is not very accurate, please see instructions on that page.

Best to replace the movement

It is best to replace the clock movement if either of these names are on the movement automatically. You do not have to think and decide if repair is better, the answer is a simple no. These companies went out of business long ago and the unit is over its lifetime. The lifetime is 25 - 30 years before it needs an overhaul or replacement. Both ST and Mason Sullivan on the movement would indicate the clock is about 40 years old.

The other Hermle Clock Movement Aliases are easy

Hermle Clock Movement Aliases on other clocks used only their name, and not there own internal numbering system on the Hermle movements. So basically if the clock is of post war German origin you can just look at the number and forget the name. The numbers will indicate what movement it is. If it is a Hermle movement its 3 or 4 digits followed by a hyphen, and then 3 more digits. Like this 1161-853 or 340-020 or 351-060. If the numbers look like this it is made by Hermle.

Other Names Used

  • Hamilton
  • S. Larose
  • Mason & Sullivan
  • Welby
  • Pearl
  • Tally Industries
  • Bulova
  • Seth Thomas
  • Howard Miller
  • Sligh

Hermle Number Examples

Below are some typical examples of the Hermle clock movement numbering system. If your clock numbers are similar to this, its made by Hermle.

  • 451-050 94cm
  • 340-020
  • 140-070
  • 451-030 66cm
  • 341-020 45cm
  • 1151-050 114cm
  • 451-053 94cm
  • 1161-853 114cm
  • 141-070 45cm
  • 351-050 55cm
  • 1161-850 94cm
  • 241-070 94cm

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New Clock Movement Benefits

New clock movement benefits far outweigh the benefits of an overhaul. This section will explain why that is and what the best course of action is to get your clock working.

Getting the movement worked on

Clocks need to be oiled after 10 years or so. Then, after 20 or 30 years, a full break down of the movement is necessary. This is all well and good and can be done with the old movement. The movement will run for another 5 or 15 years with no issues but then it will be time to do it again.

Every time the movement is worked on and re-bushed, it will last less and less time before it needs attention again. The repair process is expensive because it takes time to separate the plates, remove all the gears, do the necessary work, and then put them all back together again. This process may need to be redone if not perfect the first time. The turn around time to complete an overhaul could be anywhere from 1 to 3 months, and in some extreme cases, a year. It is a slow moving venture that costs twice as much as a new movement would. If a new movement is not available, then this is the best, and only, way to handle a clock repair.

Replacing with a new clock movement

If the movement is still in production, it is far better to just get the new one. Mass production makes the movement so affordable it will cost a fraction of the price of the repair work. The movement will be the same one but brand new and ready to run 30 years without much complaint. There is absolutely no way to repair an old movement so that it is better than new. Even the best clockmaker using the best equipment cannot make the movement better than a new one.

A new one is a factory fresh restart. The clock will be like it was originally when it was purchased from the store. The new movement will be made by the same people, with the same machines, and the movement is the same. It is not a close replica or made somewhere else besides Germany. It is the same movement. Not a knock off or replica. So wouldn't it make sense to get the new one instead of chasing the old? The choice is clear and obvious. The new movement will cost a fraction of the price and the clock is up and running in no time.

Movements to consider getting repaired instead

If a unit is no longer in production and not available new, then a repair is most likely your only option. However we will try to convert it to a new unit that is close and easy to adapt. If it is not an easy one to adapt, or would take too much case work, then the best solution is to get it worked on.

Another movement to consider getting overhauled instead of replaced is the tubular bell, which is a high end movement. The price of a tubular bell unit makes an overhaul more attractive. This is because of the high price on the new ones which is currently around $1600. Usually the price is less for the new unit but instead these units are more costly than the overhaul by clockworks.com anyway. We can charge only $900 for the complete overhaul on these units. Ultimately the choice is yours. There is a good argument in both directions that makes sense on these expensive units.

Clockworks.com = The best repair service

We would love to do the overhaul here at clockworks.com and we do the best job. There are two ways to fix clocks; the easy way and the hard way. We only do it the hard way with no short cuts. It is even more important for us to do your repair than another company because we do not go to your house. There is no one being intrusive in your home and possibly damaging your clock case.

The movement itself is the only item that gets sent to us. No components need to be sent since we have everything else here such as weights, dials and pendulums. It is a great advantage to have clockworks.com work on your movement for this fact alone. A clock supply depot such as us does not need to wait for parts. We possess everything we could possibly need to complete a thorough, professional clock repair right here.

The new movement

New clock movement benefits usually do indeed outweigh the repair option. The movement will already come lubricated with clock oil so there is no need to oil it. The clock comes with cables and pulleys, or chains, the leader, and suspension spring. This is everything that comes out when you remove the two screws that are under the movement, besides the dial and weights.

Once you get the hands and the clock dial out of the way (instructions included) it's only a matter of removing the two screws from underneath. The new movement can be swapped out by an experienced person in 10 or 15 minutes. An inexperienced person will take longer, but the point is that it isn't hard to do. There are some instances where a clock case was made in an annoying way that makes it more difficult, but for mass produced clocks this is not the situation. This more related to a few individual clockmakers who may have designed the case to make it more tricky to get the movement in or out.

Summary

A new clock movement is typically less than half the cost of an overhaul. It will also be on its way to the customer instantly instead of months later. A new clock movement will last the longest of any other choice.

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Hermle Clock Movement

The numbers on the back plate of the 1161 Hermle Clock Movement is everything one needs to get a replacement. If the numbers match then the 1161 Hermle Clock Movement matches. Please sure to select the proper CM length that matches the old unit.


Hermle Clock Movement
Assistance = 800-381-7458

  • Brand New and Original
  • Plate size 120 x 120mm
  • Chain or Cable Driven
  • Triple Chime
  • 1161 Hermle Clock Movement
1161 Hermle Clock Movement
  • A fraction of the price of an overhaul
  • Should last 25-30 years, an overhaul would not
  • Instructions and expert support
  • Hermle Clock Movement of Germany

1161-853 Hermle Clock Movement

1161-853 Hermle Clock Movement is a triple chime chain or cable driven unit with three weights. This is a rectangle shaped movement with the movement plate size of 140 x 200mm and takes a size #8 crank (If cable).

What is being offered on this page is the movement only with out the pendulum, gong or dial. These movement come as the movement itself with new chains / cables and pulleys, hand nut, suspension spring and leader. This high quality weight driven German made movement.

Ordering a Hermle Clock Movement

The movement numbers off of the Hermle clock movement are needed when ordering. The numbers are matched up and it will be the exact same movement as the old one. Replacing the movement is a fraction of the price of a repair, and the clock will be up and working the fastest way.

Clock movement removal and installation

Removing and the installing the clock movement only requires the most basic tools. If you can change the spark plug on your lawn mower this will be a breeze. All the Hermle clock movements are in stock and can ship immediately. We are full time clock makers and retailers both, so if you need any assistance please ask. This goes for the installation or ordering a Hermle clock movement, if you need help please let us know.

Matching the CM when ordering

This note is only if your ordering a movement that has a pendulum. You will need to match up your CM length from the back plate of your old unit to the new one. The options indicated all that is available by stock. If there is a CM number you need but is not listed we can still create it most likely by changing some gears. If this is the situation please just give us a call 800 381 7458. There is an extra fee for the regearing of the movement. Usually this fee is $30 to $40 additional.

Conclusion

Replacing a movement is less costly than a overhaul. These movements last 25 years before needing an over haul, but since its still being made at a fair price it is so much better just to replace. The clock will be problem free right away instead of months, last longer than a overhaul and comes oiled.

Hermle Clock Movement Directory Explanation

Hermle Clock Movement Directory is to get to the correct page that contains your clock movement. The Hermle mechanical movements have numbers on the back plate starting with the below few numbers, and then followed by a - dash and then some more numbers. Examples = 340-020 131-070 1161-853 351-020 and similar. So if your clock says something like 1161-053 you would drop the second half and click the 1161 button below. This will bring you to the page where 1161-053 and the rest of the 1161 series resides.

Hermle Clock Movement Directory

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If Not Listed

If your Hermle movement is not found on these pages we may still have it as a conversion or we maybe able to create it out of what exists. Please email your movement number or a picture of the back plate to [email protected] If your movement numbers do not look like the Hermle movement numbers as described it maybe made by someone else. The mechanical movement identification page will assist you with determining who made the clock. This is for post WW2 modern mechanical clock movements made in Germany only however.

Hermle 340 Clock Movement Parts Front Diagram

ID Letter Part Name Description New / Used Price
A Balance The balance wheel with its bracket and hairspring complete New $30.00
B Strike 3rd Wheel This is the strike side 3rd wheel up, counting the spring barrel as 1st New $15.00
C Strike 2rd Wheel Strike side 2nd wheel up, counting the spring barrel as 1st New $15.00
D Strike Barrel This is the strike side mainspring barrel with mainspring installed New $30.00
E Strike Rack The teeth on the saw part controls the quantity of the hourly strikes New $10.00
F Hour Snail Snail and attached hour hand tube, for any 341 / 340 Series ending with 0 New $15.00
G Hand Shaft This is the long post with threaded tip, the minute hand nut attaches to this New $20.00
H Chime Cam Controls the quarterly chime song duration, has a set screw New $10.00
I Chime Barrel This is the chime side mainspring barrel with mainspring installed New $30.00

Kieninger KSU Movement Parts – Back Diagram

ID Letter Part Name Description New / Used Price
A Hammer Sold Individually, with screw and tip New $5.00
B Selector Switch Goes through the dial so you can select something New $5.00
C Backplate 6x9 back plate of the movement New $50.00
D Suspension Post The post the suspension spring hangs on, then the pendulum New $20.00
E Strike Assembly Strike hammer assembly with 4 hammers and rods with post New $20.00
F Crutch and Verge The part that wacks the pendulum back and forth and the anchor on top New $20.00
G Roll Pin Chime roll pin that makes the hammers play a tune New $15.00
H Chime Wheel Rear wheel that activates the chime hammer assembly New $10.00
I Wind Arbor Bushing Rear bushing that holds the winding arbor pivot New $10.00
J Strike Spring Returns the strike hammers via spring power New $2.00

Hermle 340-341 Clock Movement Parts Back Diagram

ID Letter Part Name Description New / Used
A Balance New Style Balance New
B Chime Fly The fan on the top of the chime side New
C Rear Chime Wheel Top The upper chime wheel on the back of the movement New
D Chime Barrel Chime side barrel with installed mainspring and cap New
E Lower Chime Wheel Backside The lower back side chime wheel New
F Back Plate The back plate of the movement for the 340 - 341 series New
G Strike 3rd wheel The strike side 3rd wheel up in the gear train New
H Strike 2nd wheel The strike side 2nd wheel up in the gear train New
I Strike Barrel The strike side barrel with mainspring in it New
J Rear hammer plate hammer assembly plate that holds the hammers New
K Time barrel with mainspring The center time barrel with mainspring installed New

1161-053 Hermle Clock Movement

1161 Hermle Clock MovementMVT NotesHermle IdentificationWhat Happened?Other Names UsedWhy get a new Hermle?

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1161 Hermle Clock Movement Notes

The 1161 Hermle Clock Movement Notes is written for information about the clock you own. These movements are great that is why there is so many made. They work night and day for 30 years without much complaint. So here is some information on these fine German made units.

Names on the Movement

The name maybe a number of makers on the movement, but it was made by Hermle not them. It may say Howard Miller, or Ridgeway, or Sligh, or many other names. If the number on the clock movement starts with 1161- its really made by the Hermle company. They let these companies to have there name on the movement instead of Hermle.

Chain or Cable Drive

This movement was made in both cable driven and also chain driven styles. The 1161-853 is the most popular and the most produced Grandfather clock movement in the world. When ordering a new movement it will come with the chains or cables with the pulleys.

Hermle movement 1161-853 Clock Weights

This clock movement takes three clock weights to run. The weights should be close to 8 or 10lbs, and does not have to be exact. Even though it does not have to be the exact weight, here is the exact weight specification from the factory. If the pendulum bob is less than 8 1/2 inches wide, it will take two at 7.7LBS and one at 9.9LBS. If the pendulum bob is 8 1/2 inches in diameter or larger, it takes two weights at 9.9LBS and one at 7.7LBS. Often they will have a 10 1/2 inch bob with the two at 7.7 and one at 9.9 and the customer says it ran 30 years like that.

Weight Placement

The placement for the clock weights on this series is the following. The heavy weight will go on your right as you face the clock if one heavy and two light. If you have two heavy weights and one light weight, the light one will go on your left as you face the clock. So what this means is the middle time train weight is variable light or heavy depending on pendulum bob diameter.

1161 Hermle Clock Movement Songs

This is a triple chime unit that plays out a melody on the quarter hours and then on the top of the hour it will strike out whatever times the hour is. The songs this one plays are your choice of the following. Westminster, Saint Micheal, or Wittington and also a silent option. For an additional cost is it able to have an auto night shut off switch (ANSO), this will make the clock quiet from 10pm to 7am on its own without your intervention.

The Support

Please note the factory will give you three years for the warranty. However we are clock makers here at Clockworks.com and we have been doing this sort of thing for a long time in this family (over 100 years of experience). If you have some sort of question or concern in whatever amount of time, we are not going to turn you down in response, we answer whatever questions you have even a decade later, it really does not matter. We take care of our customers in whatever way we can. The movement comes with instructions and any questions beyond the instructions can be emailed, chatted, or called in.

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Hermle Clock Movement Identification

Identification is done with the numbers on the back plate of the Hermle clock movement. Not from the manual that came with the clock and not off the wood case. On the back plate of the clock movement there are some numbers such as 451-050 94cm. These simple numbers indicate everything there is to know about the mechanical clock movement itself.

Identification is the first step

When the numbers are matched from old to new, the new movement can be ordered. The new movement will be the exact same and not a knock off. Therefore all of the existing clock components will fit just the same a it did before. Now troubleshooting can be done as well as part or movement ordering. When talking about the movement it will be clear what one is referred too.

A new Hermle clock movement is best

As discussed in a different section the new movement is the way to go. The new unit is a fraction of the price of an overhaul on the old one. The clock back and running in the shortest time instead of waiting months for the overhaul to be completed. The movement will last another 30 years without much complaint and this cant be said about a restored old unit.

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Mechanical Clock Movement Wear

Mechanical clock movement wear after years go by because the oil turns solid. With age, the mechanical clock movement's oil solidifies and becomes black and sticky. By the time 20 or 30 years go by, the oil has solidified and is creating wear on the movements brass plates.

What wear and where

If you look at your old clock movement, you will see holes in the brass plates where there are small pivot arbors sticking into these holes. These pivots are what the gears of the clock ride upon and as the pivots spin in the solidified oil, this makes the holes oblong instead of round. With the pivot holes oblong, the holes are pinching the pivots and creating resistance in the gear train. With the solidified oil and the pinched pivots, the clock will eventually stop working or chiming.

Invisible clock movement wear

This wear takes place in the holes that are in the brass plates and is hard to identify sometimes. These holes in the brass plates become oblong instead of round and this pinches the pivot arbor going into it. Between this, and the solid oil, the clock ceases to function. To have this repaired is an expensive and long process. To have a mechanical movement serviced can cost two times as much or even three times the amount of the new one.

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Hermle Clock Movement Aliases

Hermle produced clock movements and used aliases for names in a way. The movement could be stamped many names but really it will be made by Hermle. Some companies bought so many they were able to get there name on the movement instead of Hermle. The following is only a partial list of names that could be on the clock movement.

The best disguised Aliases

Seth Thomas also Mason and Sullivan had not only there name, also there own internal numbering system. This was stamped on the movement, instead of the Hermle number. Since it is not a Hermle number, the number would need to be converted to what the real number is . This is done with the Mason and Sullivan chart, or the Seth Thomas conversion Chart. However the Seth Thomas chart is not very accurate, please see instructions on that page.

Best to replace the movement

It is best to replace the clock movement if either of these names are on the movement automatically. You do not have to think and decide if repair is better, the answer is a simple no. These companies went out of business long ago and the unit is over its lifetime. The lifetime is 25 - 30 years before it needs an overhaul or replacement. Both ST and Mason Sullivan on the movement would indicate the clock is about 40 years old.

The other Hermle Clock Movement Aliases are easy

Hermle Clock Movement Aliases on other clocks used only their name, and not there own internal numbering system on the Hermle movements. So basically if the clock is of post war German origin you can just look at the number and forget the name. The numbers will indicate what movement it is. If it is a Hermle movement its 3 or 4 digits followed by a hyphen, and then 3 more digits. Like this 1161-853 or 340-020 or 351-060. If the numbers look like this it is made by Hermle.

Other Names Used

  • Hamilton
  • S. Larose
  • Mason & Sullivan
  • Welby
  • Pearl
  • Tally Industries
  • Bulova
  • Seth Thomas
  • Howard Miller
  • Sligh

Hermle Number Examples

Below are some typical examples of the Hermle clock movement numbering system. If your clock numbers are similar to this, its made by Hermle.

  • 451-050 94cm
  • 340-020
  • 140-070
  • 451-030 66cm
  • 341-020 45cm
  • 1151-050 114cm
  • 451-053 94cm
  • 1161-853 114cm
  • 141-070 45cm
  • 351-050 55cm
  • 1161-850 94cm
  • 241-070 94cm

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New Clock Movement Benefits

New clock movement benefits far outweigh the benefits of an overhaul. This section will explain why that is and what the best course of action is to get your clock working.

Getting the movement worked on

Clocks need to be oiled after 10 years or so. Then, after 20 or 30 years, a full break down of the movement is necessary. This is all well and good and can be done with the old movement. The movement will run for another 5 or 15 years with no issues but then it will be time to do it again.

Every time the movement is worked on and re-bushed, it will last less and less time before it needs attention again. The repair process is expensive because it takes time to separate the plates, remove all the gears, do the necessary work, and then put them all back together again. This process may need to be redone if not perfect the first time. The turn around time to complete an overhaul could be anywhere from 1 to 3 months, and in some extreme cases, a year. It is a slow moving venture that costs twice as much as a new movement would. If a new movement is not available, then this is the best, and only, way to handle a clock repair.

Replacing with a new clock movement

If the movement is still in production, it is far better to just get the new one. Mass production makes the movement so affordable it will cost a fraction of the price of the repair work. The movement will be the same one but brand new and ready to run 30 years without much complaint. There is absolutely no way to repair an old movement so that it is better than new. Even the best clockmaker using the best equipment cannot make the movement better than a new one.

A new one is a factory fresh restart. The clock will be like it was originally when it was purchased from the store. The new movement will be made by the same people, with the same machines, and the movement is the same. It is not a close replica or made somewhere else besides Germany. It is the same movement. Not a knock off or replica. So wouldn't it make sense to get the new one instead of chasing the old? The choice is clear and obvious. The new movement will cost a fraction of the price and the clock is up and running in no time.

Movements to consider getting repaired instead

If a unit is no longer in production and not available new, then a repair is most likely your only option. However we will try to convert it to a new unit that is close and easy to adapt. If it is not an easy one to adapt, or would take too much case work, then the best solution is to get it worked on.

Another movement to consider getting overhauled instead of replaced is the tubular bell, which is a high end movement. The price of a tubular bell unit makes an overhaul more attractive. This is because of the high price on the new ones which is currently around $1600. Usually the price is less for the new unit but instead these units are more costly than the overhaul by clockworks.com anyway. We can charge only $900 for the complete overhaul on these units. Ultimately the choice is yours. There is a good argument in both directions that makes sense on these expensive units.

Clockworks.com = The best repair service

We would love to do the overhaul here at clockworks.com and we do the best job. There are two ways to fix clocks; the easy way and the hard way. We only do it the hard way with no short cuts. It is even more important for us to do your repair than another company because we do not go to your house. There is no one being intrusive in your home and possibly damaging your clock case.

The movement itself is the only item that gets sent to us. No components need to be sent since we have everything else here such as weights, dials and pendulums. It is a great advantage to have clockworks.com work on your movement for this fact alone. A clock supply depot such as us does not need to wait for parts. We possess everything we could possibly need to complete a thorough, professional clock repair right here.

The new movement

New clock movement benefits usually do indeed outweigh the repair option. The movement will already come lubricated with clock oil so there is no need to oil it. The clock comes with cables and pulleys, or chains, the leader, and suspension spring. This is everything that comes out when you remove the two screws that are under the movement, besides the dial and weights.

Once you get the hands and the clock dial out of the way (instructions included) it's only a matter of removing the two screws from underneath. The new movement can be swapped out by an experienced person in 10 or 15 minutes. An inexperienced person will take longer, but the point is that it isn't hard to do. There are some instances where a clock case was made in an annoying way that makes it more difficult, but for mass produced clocks this is not the situation. This more related to a few individual clockmakers who may have designed the case to make it more tricky to get the movement in or out.

Summary

A new clock movement is typically less than half the cost of an overhaul. It will also be on its way to the customer instantly instead of months later. A new clock movement will last the longest of any other choice.

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Hermle Clock Movement

The numbers on the back plate of the 1161 Hermle Clock Movement is everything one needs to get a replacement. If the numbers match then the 1161 Hermle Clock Movement matches. Please sure to select the proper CM length that matches the old unit.


Hermle Clock Movement
Assistance = 800-381-7458

  • Brand New and Original
  • Plate size 120 x 120mm
  • Chain or Cable Driven
  • Triple Chime
  • 1161 Hermle Clock Movement
1161 Hermle Clock Movement
  • A fraction of the price of an overhaul
  • Should last 25-30 years, an overhaul would not
  • Instructions and expert support
  • Hermle Clock Movement of Germany

1161-053 Hermle Clock Movement

1161-053 Hermle Clock Movement is a triple chime chain or cable driven unit with three weights. This is a rectangle shaped movement with the movement plate size of 140 x 200mm and takes a size #8 crank (If cable).

What is being offered on this page is the movement only with out the pendulum, gong or dial. These movement come as the movement itself with new chains / cables and pulleys, hand nut, suspension spring and leader. This high quality weight driven German made movement.

Ordering a Hermle Clock Movement

The movement numbers off of the Hermle clock movement are needed when ordering. The numbers are matched up and it will be the exact same movement as the old one. Replacing the movement is a fraction of the price of a repair, and the clock will be up and working the fastest way.

Clock movement removal and installation

Removing and the installing the clock movement only requires the most basic tools. If you can change the spark plug on your lawn mower this will be a breeze. All the Hermle clock movements are in stock and can ship immediately. We are full time clock makers and retailers both, so if you need any assistance please ask. This goes for the installation or ordering a Hermle clock movement, if you need help please let us know.

Matching the CM when ordering

This note is only if your ordering a movement that has a pendulum. You will need to match up your CM length from the back plate of your old unit to the new one. The options indicated all that is available by stock. If there is a CM number you need but is not listed we can still create it most likely by changing some gears. If this is the situation please just give us a call 800 381 7458. There is an extra fee for the regearing of the movement. Usually this fee is $30 to $40 additional.

Conclusion

Replacing a movement is less costly than a overhaul. These movements last 25 years before needing an over haul, but since its still being made at a fair price it is so much better just to replace. The clock will be problem free right away instead of months, last longer than a overhaul and comes oiled.

Hermle Clock Movement Directory Explanation

Hermle Clock Movement Directory is to get to the correct page that contains your clock movement. The Hermle mechanical movements have numbers on the back plate starting with the below few numbers, and then followed by a - dash and then some more numbers. Examples = 340-020 131-070 1161-853 351-020 and similar. So if your clock says something like 1161-053 you would drop the second half and click the 1161 button below. This will bring you to the page where 1161-053 and the rest of the 1161 series resides.

Hermle Clock Movement Directory

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Mechanical Clock Movement Identification by Clockworks.com
Hermle Clock Movements
Mechanical Clock Movement Identification by Clockworks.com

If Not Listed

If your Hermle movement is not found on these pages we may still have it as a conversion or we maybe able to create it out of what exists. Please email your movement number or a picture of the back plate to [email protected] If your movement numbers do not look like the Hermle movement numbers as described it maybe made by someone else. The mechanical movement identification page will assist you with determining who made the clock. This is for post WW2 modern mechanical clock movements made in Germany only however.

Kieninger KSU Movement Parts – Top Diagram

ID Letter Part Name Description New / Used Price
A Strike Drum Complete with cable, wheel, winding arbor, also known as the first wheel New $35.00
B Strike Fly Governs the speed of the strike gear train so it does not run to fast New $10.00
C Strike Fly Wheel This is the wheel that interacts with the fly or fan on the top New $10.00
D Crutch and Verge The part that rocks back and forth with the anchor looking part New $20.00
E Chime Fly Governs the speed of the chime gear train so it does not run to fast New $10.00
F Chime Fly Wheel This is the wheel that interacts with the fly or fan on the top New $10.00
G Chime Drum Complete with cable, wheel, winding arbor, also known as the first wheel New $35.00
H Roll Pin Chime roll pin that makes the hammers play a tune New $15.00

Kieninger KSU Clock Movement Parts – Front Diagram

ID Letter Part Name Description New / Used Price
A Hammer Sold Individually, with screw and tip New $5.00
B Front Plate 6x9 Front plate of the movement New $50.00
C Rack Saw tooth rack that counts the strikes New $10.00
D ANSO lever Turns on or off the auto night shut off New $10.00
E Selector Switch Goes through the dial to select from the front New $5.00
F Stopworks Sold as a set, so weights not go to far up or down New $10.00
G ANSO Cam Auto night shut off activation cam wheel New $10.00
H Hour Snail The tube and snail that holds the hour hand New $10.00
I Hand Shaft The long post that holds the minute hand New $25.00
J Chime Cam Determines the quarterly chime output New $10.00
K Winding Arbor To wind the clock cables and holds the cable drum in New $10.00
L Cable Single clock cable with Ends that is .040 thick and 112inch in length New $12.00
M Pulley Cable pulley to hang the clock weight 1 3/4 wide New $22.00

Quartz Movement Holder Wall Mount

Quartz movement holder for mounting a wall clock. If you put a standard 2 1/8 square AA quartz movement inside, you can provide stability to the clock dial and put the clock on the wall with the built in hanger. It will provide a wider base support against the wall and will not wobble around with long hands when a high torque unit is used.

Put the quartz movement into the square hole, put the dial on the front side over the movements post, put the hex nut on the movement over the dial. Now you have the dial mounted to the movement with the cup attached to the back of the dial and can hang it on the wall.

This can be screwed in also if using a chunk of log for the dial. This holder gets screwed into the back of the wood dial and then the movement goes into the holder.

Commonly bought with..

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  • Quartz clock movement by clockworks.com #M2 Quartz Clock Movement
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  • Chiming quartz clock movement with the best sound by clockworks.com #QU40 Chime Pendulum Clock Movement
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Kieninger SKS Movement Parts -Top Diagram

ID Letter Part Name Description New / Used Price
A Suspension Post Holds the suspension spring where the pendulum and leader will hang from New $20.00
B Back Plate Approximately 5x5 inch, this is the back plate of the movement New $30.00
C Movement Pillar The pillar arbors that hold the movement plates together sold single New $5.00
D Front Plate Approximately 5x5 inch, this is the front plate of the movement New $30.00
E Suspension Spring The suspension spring holds the leader and then the pendulum in the air New $10.00
F Hammer Complete with screw and tip these are sold individually New $5.00
G Strike Fly Controls the speed of the strike, also called a fan New $15.00
H Escape Wheel The top gear / arbor of the center time train that interacts with the anchor New $15.00
I Chime Fly Controls the speed of the Chime, also called a fan New $15.00
J Chime Roll Pin Creates a song by controlling the sequence of hammer strikes New $15.00
K Snail The snail looking portion with the tube that the hour hand goes on New $15.00
L Hand Shaft The long center shaft where the minute hand attaches too New $20.00
M Selector Arm Controls the chime options via human interaction with the selector switch New $10.00
N Selector Switch The smaller arm that goes from the selector arm and out of the dial New $5.00

1161-850 Hermle Clock Movement

1161 Hermle Clock MovementMVT NotesHermle IdentificationWhat Happened?Other Names UsedWhy get a new Hermle?

Please view these information tabs to learn about the movement 1161-853 and other 1161 Hermle Clock Movement units

1161 Hermle Clock Movement Notes

The 1161 Hermle Clock Movement Notes is written for information about the clock you own. These movements are great that is why there is so many made. They work night and day for 30 years without much complaint. So here is some information on these fine German made units.

Names on the Movement

The name maybe a number of makers on the movement, but it was made by Hermle not them. It may say Howard Miller, or Ridgeway, or Sligh, or many other names. If the number on the clock movement starts with 1161- its really made by the Hermle company. They let these companies to have there name on the movement instead of Hermle.

Chain or Cable Drive

This movement was made in both cable driven and also chain driven styles. The 1161-853 is the most popular and the most produced Grandfather clock movement in the world. When ordering a new movement it will come with the chains or cables with the pulleys.

Hermle movement 1161-853 Clock Weights

This clock movement takes three clock weights to run. The weights should be close to 8 or 10lbs, and does not have to be exact. Even though it does not have to be the exact weight, here is the exact weight specification from the factory. If the pendulum bob is less than 8 1/2 inches wide, it will take two at 7.7LBS and one at 9.9LBS. If the pendulum bob is 8 1/2 inches in diameter or larger, it takes two weights at 9.9LBS and one at 7.7LBS. Often they will have a 10 1/2 inch bob with the two at 7.7 and one at 9.9 and the customer says it ran 30 years like that.

Weight Placement

The placement for the clock weights on this series is the following. The heavy weight will go on your right as you face the clock if one heavy and two light. If you have two heavy weights and one light weight, the light one will go on your left as you face the clock. So what this means is the middle time train weight is variable light or heavy depending on pendulum bob diameter.

1161 Hermle Clock Movement Songs

This is a triple chime unit that plays out a melody on the quarter hours and then on the top of the hour it will strike out whatever times the hour is. The songs this one plays are your choice of the following. Westminster, Saint Micheal, or Wittington and also a silent option. For an additional cost is it able to have an auto night shut off switch (ANSO), this will make the clock quiet from 10pm to 7am on its own without your intervention.

The Support

Please note the factory will give you three years for the warranty. However we are clock makers here at Clockworks.com and we have been doing this sort of thing for a long time in this family (over 100 years of experience). If you have some sort of question or concern in whatever amount of time, we are not going to turn you down in response, we answer whatever questions you have even a decade later, it really does not matter. We take care of our customers in whatever way we can. The movement comes with instructions and any questions beyond the instructions can be emailed, chatted, or called in.

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Hermle Clock Movement Identification

Identification is done with the numbers on the back plate of the Hermle clock movement. Not from the manual that came with the clock and not off the wood case. On the back plate of the clock movement there are some numbers such as 451-050 94cm. These simple numbers indicate everything there is to know about the mechanical clock movement itself.

Identification is the first step

When the numbers are matched from old to new, the new movement can be ordered. The new movement will be the exact same and not a knock off. Therefore all of the existing clock components will fit just the same a it did before. Now troubleshooting can be done as well as part or movement ordering. When talking about the movement it will be clear what one is referred too.

A new Hermle clock movement is best

As discussed in a different section the new movement is the way to go. The new unit is a fraction of the price of an overhaul on the old one. The clock back and running in the shortest time instead of waiting months for the overhaul to be completed. The movement will last another 30 years without much complaint and this cant be said about a restored old unit.

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Mechanical Clock Movement Wear

Mechanical clock movement wear after years go by because the oil turns solid. With age, the mechanical clock movement's oil solidifies and becomes black and sticky. By the time 20 or 30 years go by, the oil has solidified and is creating wear on the movements brass plates.

What wear and where

If you look at your old clock movement, you will see holes in the brass plates where there are small pivot arbors sticking into these holes. These pivots are what the gears of the clock ride upon and as the pivots spin in the solidified oil, this makes the holes oblong instead of round. With the pivot holes oblong, the holes are pinching the pivots and creating resistance in the gear train. With the solidified oil and the pinched pivots, the clock will eventually stop working or chiming.

Invisible clock movement wear

This wear takes place in the holes that are in the brass plates and is hard to identify sometimes. These holes in the brass plates become oblong instead of round and this pinches the pivot arbor going into it. Between this, and the solid oil, the clock ceases to function. To have this repaired is an expensive and long process. To have a mechanical movement serviced can cost two times as much or even three times the amount of the new one.

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Hermle Clock Movement Aliases

Hermle produced clock movements and used aliases for names in a way. The movement could be stamped many names but really it will be made by Hermle. Some companies bought so many they were able to get there name on the movement instead of Hermle. The following is only a partial list of names that could be on the clock movement.

The best disguised Aliases

Seth Thomas also Mason and Sullivan had not only there name, also there own internal numbering system. This was stamped on the movement, instead of the Hermle number. Since it is not a Hermle number, the number would need to be converted to what the real number is . This is done with the Mason and Sullivan chart, or the Seth Thomas conversion Chart. However the Seth Thomas chart is not very accurate, please see instructions on that page.

Best to replace the movement

It is best to replace the clock movement if either of these names are on the movement automatically. You do not have to think and decide if repair is better, the answer is a simple no. These companies went out of business long ago and the unit is over its lifetime. The lifetime is 25 - 30 years before it needs an overhaul or replacement. Both ST and Mason Sullivan on the movement would indicate the clock is about 40 years old.

The other Hermle Clock Movement Aliases are easy

Hermle Clock Movement Aliases on other clocks used only their name, and not there own internal numbering system on the Hermle movements. So basically if the clock is of post war German origin you can just look at the number and forget the name. The numbers will indicate what movement it is. If it is a Hermle movement its 3 or 4 digits followed by a hyphen, and then 3 more digits. Like this 1161-853 or 340-020 or 351-060. If the numbers look like this it is made by Hermle.

Other Names Used

  • Hamilton
  • S. Larose
  • Mason & Sullivan
  • Welby
  • Pearl
  • Tally Industries
  • Bulova
  • Seth Thomas
  • Howard Miller
  • Sligh

Hermle Number Examples

Below are some typical examples of the Hermle clock movement numbering system. If your clock numbers are similar to this, its made by Hermle.

  • 451-050 94cm
  • 340-020
  • 140-070
  • 451-030 66cm
  • 341-020 45cm
  • 1151-050 114cm
  • 451-053 94cm
  • 1161-853 114cm
  • 141-070 45cm
  • 351-050 55cm
  • 1161-850 94cm
  • 241-070 94cm

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New Clock Movement Benefits

New clock movement benefits far outweigh the benefits of an overhaul. This section will explain why that is and what the best course of action is to get your clock working.

Getting the movement worked on

Clocks need to be oiled after 10 years or so. Then, after 20 or 30 years, a full break down of the movement is necessary. This is all well and good and can be done with the old movement. The movement will run for another 5 or 15 years with no issues but then it will be time to do it again.

Every time the movement is worked on and re-bushed, it will last less and less time before it needs attention again. The repair process is expensive because it takes time to separate the plates, remove all the gears, do the necessary work, and then put them all back together again. This process may need to be redone if not perfect the first time. The turn around time to complete an overhaul could be anywhere from 1 to 3 months, and in some extreme cases, a year. It is a slow moving venture that costs twice as much as a new movement would. If a new movement is not available, then this is the best, and only, way to handle a clock repair.

Replacing with a new clock movement

If the movement is still in production, it is far better to just get the new one. Mass production makes the movement so affordable it will cost a fraction of the price of the repair work. The movement will be the same one but brand new and ready to run 30 years without much complaint. There is absolutely no way to repair an old movement so that it is better than new. Even the best clockmaker using the best equipment cannot make the movement better than a new one.

A new one is a factory fresh restart. The clock will be like it was originally when it was purchased from the store. The new movement will be made by the same people, with the same machines, and the movement is the same. It is not a close replica or made somewhere else besides Germany. It is the same movement. Not a knock off or replica. So wouldn't it make sense to get the new one instead of chasing the old? The choice is clear and obvious. The new movement will cost a fraction of the price and the clock is up and running in no time.

Movements to consider getting repaired instead

If a unit is no longer in production and not available new, then a repair is most likely your only option. However we will try to convert it to a new unit that is close and easy to adapt. If it is not an easy one to adapt, or would take too much case work, then the best solution is to get it worked on.

Another movement to consider getting overhauled instead of replaced is the tubular bell, which is a high end movement. The price of a tubular bell unit makes an overhaul more attractive. This is because of the high price on the new ones which is currently around $1600. Usually the price is less for the new unit but instead these units are more costly than the overhaul by clockworks.com anyway. We can charge only $900 for the complete overhaul on these units. Ultimately the choice is yours. There is a good argument in both directions that makes sense on these expensive units.

Clockworks.com = The best repair service

We would love to do the overhaul here at clockworks.com and we do the best job. There are two ways to fix clocks; the easy way and the hard way. We only do it the hard way with no short cuts. It is even more important for us to do your repair than another company because we do not go to your house. There is no one being intrusive in your home and possibly damaging your clock case.

The movement itself is the only item that gets sent to us. No components need to be sent since we have everything else here such as weights, dials and pendulums. It is a great advantage to have clockworks.com work on your movement for this fact alone. A clock supply depot such as us does not need to wait for parts. We possess everything we could possibly need to complete a thorough, professional clock repair right here.

The new movement

New clock movement benefits usually do indeed outweigh the repair option. The movement will already come lubricated with clock oil so there is no need to oil it. The clock comes with cables and pulleys, or chains, the leader, and suspension spring. This is everything that comes out when you remove the two screws that are under the movement, besides the dial and weights.

Once you get the hands and the clock dial out of the way (instructions included) it's only a matter of removing the two screws from underneath. The new movement can be swapped out by an experienced person in 10 or 15 minutes. An inexperienced person will take longer, but the point is that it isn't hard to do. There are some instances where a clock case was made in an annoying way that makes it more difficult, but for mass produced clocks this is not the situation. This more related to a few individual clockmakers who may have designed the case to make it more tricky to get the movement in or out.

Summary

A new clock movement is typically less than half the cost of an overhaul. It will also be on its way to the customer instantly instead of months later. A new clock movement will last the longest of any other choice.

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Hermle Clock Movement

The numbers on the back plate of the 1161 Hermle Clock Movement is everything one needs to get a replacement. If the numbers match then the 1161 Hermle Clock Movement matches. Please sure to select the proper CM length that matches the old unit.


Hermle Clock Movement
Assistance = 800-381-7458

  • Brand New and Original
  • Plate size 120 x 120mm
  • Chain or Cable Driven
  • Triple Chime
  • 1161 Hermle Clock Movement
1161 Hermle Clock Movement
  • A fraction of the price of an overhaul
  • Should last 25-30 years, an overhaul would not
  • Instructions and expert support
  • Hermle Clock Movement of Germany

1161-850 Hermle Clock Movement

1161-850 Hermle Clock Movement is a triple chime chain or cable driven unit with three weights. This is a rectangle shaped movement with the movement plate size of 140 x 200mm and takes a size #8 crank (If cable).

What is being offered on this page is the movement only with out the pendulum, gong or dial. These movement come as the movement itself with new chains / cables and pulleys, hand nut, suspension spring and leader. This high quality weight driven German made movement.

Ordering a Hermle Clock Movement

The movement numbers off of the Hermle clock movement are needed when ordering. The numbers are matched up and it will be the exact same movement as the old one. Replacing the movement is a fraction of the price of a repair, and the clock will be up and working the fastest way.

Clock movement removal and installation

Removing and the installing the clock movement only requires the most basic tools. If you can change the spark plug on your lawn mower this will be a breeze. All the Hermle clock movements are in stock and can ship immediately. We are full time clock makers and retailers both, so if you need any assistance please ask. This goes for the installation or ordering a Hermle clock movement, if you need help please let us know.

Matching the CM when ordering

This note is only if your ordering a movement that has a pendulum. You will need to match up your CM length from the back plate of your old unit to the new one. The options indicated all that is available by stock. If there is a CM number you need but is not listed we can still create it most likely by changing some gears. If this is the situation please just give us a call 800 381 7458. There is an extra fee for the regearing of the movement. Usually this fee is $30 to $40 additional.

Conclusion

Replacing a movement is less costly than a overhaul. These movements last 25 years before needing an over haul, but since its still being made at a fair price it is so much better just to replace. The clock will be problem free right away instead of months, last longer than a overhaul and comes oiled.

Hermle Clock Movement Directory Explanation

Hermle Clock Movement Directory is to get to the correct page that contains your clock movement. The Hermle mechanical movements have numbers on the back plate starting with the below few numbers, and then followed by a - dash and then some more numbers. Examples = 340-020 131-070 1161-853 351-020 and similar. So if your clock says something like 1161-053 you would drop the second half and click the 1161 button below. This will bring you to the page where 1161-053 and the rest of the 1161 series resides.

Hermle Clock Movement Directory

HermleHermle Clock Movement Directory, Number starts with.....

Mechanical Clock Movement Identification by Clockworks.com
Hermle Clock Movements
Mechanical Clock Movement Identification by Clockworks.com

If Not Listed

If your Hermle movement is not found on these pages we may still have it as a conversion or we maybe able to create it out of what exists. Please email your movement number or a picture of the back plate to [email protected] If your movement numbers do not look like the Hermle movement numbers as described it maybe made by someone else. The mechanical movement identification page will assist you with determining who made the clock. This is for post WW2 modern mechanical clock movements made in Germany only however.

Hermle 140 Clock Movement Parts Front Diagram

ID Letter Part Name Description New / Used Price
A Fly Wheel The wheel with the nub in the gear, this wheel interacts with the fly New $15.00
B Rack The rack that look like a saw, this counts the quantity of hour strikes New $10.00
C Snail The hour snail and the hour tube New $15.00
D Strike Barrel Strike side barrel with installed mainspring and cap New $30.00
E Time Barrel Time side barrel with installed mainspring and cap New $30.00
E Front Plate The front plate of the clock movement New $30.00

Hermle 1161 Movement Parts Back Diagram

ID Letter Part Name Description New / Used Price
A Suspension Post For the 1161-853 unit, this is the post the suspension spring hangs on with its A frame New $20.00
B Chime Assembly Complete with roll pin, plate, 8 rods with hammer heads, hammer springs etc New $30.00
C Front Plate Front plate of the movement approximately 6x9 New $40.00
D Chime Wheel Makes the hammer assembly function via chime side gear train New $10.00
E Leader The part that goes from the suspension spring to the pendulum New $14.00
F Back Plate The back plate of the movement approximately 6x9 New $40.00

Hermle 1161 Movement Parts Front Diagram

ID Letter Part Name Description New / Used Price
A Suspension Post For the 1161-853 unit, this is the post the suspension spring hangs on with its A frame New $20.00
B Hammer Sold Individually, with screw and tip New $5.00
C Front Plate Front plate of the movement approximately 6x9 New $40.00
D Chime Cam Controls the time duration of the chiming sequence New $10.00
E Strike Rack The teeth on the saw part controls the quantity of the hourly strikes New $10.00
F Hour Snail Snail portion and the hour hand tube its connected to, for the 1161-853 New $15.00
G Winding Arbor One size for all 1161, comes with its stop works wheel and bracket New $10.00
H Selector Arm Controls the song played or puts it into silent mode New $10.00
I Weight Cable Clock Cable with Ends - Hermle .040 Thick 105 inch length New $12.00
J Weight Pulley The wheel the hangs from the cable, that the weight hangs on each New $10.00

Painted Metal Dog Clock with Surfboard Pendulum

Painted Metal Dog Clock with Surfboard Pendulum. This surfer dog clock's movement is a time pendulum unit that takes one AA battery not included. The clock measures 11 inches (30cm) tall from the top of the dog to the bottom of the surfboard pendulum and 8 Inches (20cm) wide overall.

Painted Metal Cow Clock with Milk Pendulum

Painted Metal Cow Clock with Milk Pendulum. Takes only one AA battery to run this quartz clock pendulum movement. The pendulum is a jug a milk that swings under the cow. This clock measures 9 inches (23cm) tall from the top to the bottom of the milk pendulum and 6 inches (15cm) wide.

Balance Wheel Complete for AS Cal 1287 Watch Parts

AS Cal 1287 Watch Parts = Balance Complete

New / Old stock watch parts, this time we have a balance complete up for sale. This includes everything in the picture put together as shown. The picture is of a balance complete, but its not the one up for sale, its just an example of one similar. The product is new and in original untouched packaging.