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Mechanical Wall Clock Kit WMKIT01

  • Westminster
  • Spring Driven
  • 6 inch overall dial diameter
  • Grid pendulum 12' tip to tip with R/A bob
  • Bottom 5 rod chimeblock
  • German made movement
  • 2-year warranty
  • $349

Westminster Spring Driven Kit
This quality German made spring driven clock movement will run 8 days on a single wind up. The movement has 5 hammers below that will play the progressive westminster melody on the quarter hours. The kit comes with the movement, chime block and rods, the dial, hands and a key. This is a complete clock with out the wood case!



Components are installed in this order

1. Chimeblock

Chimeblock Description
The chimeblock will mount to the bottom of the clock case by the included hardware. It has 5 premounted, pretuned chime rods and an overall length of about 7 1/2 inches through the block.

Chimeblock Installation
The bottom of the clock case will only need the two holes drilled to mount this. The bolts have a flat head screw driver slot on the ends, they go through the washer and install from the bottom of the case to the inside. The washers keep the bolts from going through the wood back and they thread right into the chimeblock. Sometimes it is good to have a spacer block mounted on the inside of the clock case where the chimeblock will mount. Keep in mind that the chime blocks positioning only has to be approximate as the movements hammers are meant to be bent into final position. What this means is it does not have to be dead on, just pretty close to where the movements hammers will be. It should be positioned so the tops of the hammer heads are about 1/8 or 1/2 inch down from the block that the chimerods come out of. The final adjustment will come later when you bend the hammer wires as to make the head about 1/8 away from the chime rod. This spacing between the head and the rod is so it will not thud or double hit. If you just do each hammer so it sounds good down the line, you will have a nice song at the end.


2. Movement

Movement Description
Plays 4/4 Westminster chimes sound each quarter hour and strike the full hour. It comes factory oiled and ready for installation. It includes the leader, the suspension spring, and the hand nut. It has two square shaped outer plates made of brass with the puzzle of gearing between them, and then it has the 5 hammers on the bottom for the westminster chime. This is an 8 day key wound movement with 100 mm plate width and height, the Hand shaft is 33.2 from the front plate and all the way out.

Movement Installation
This is a front mount movement, however this can change very easily if your wanting a custom design. The mounts can go on the back of the movement instead, if the set up allows for the pendulum to still swing. The mounts are a dog ear shape with hole in them, you only need some small phillips head wood screws to install the movement. This movement is sold as a front mount intention, the case will need a 4 or 5 inch hole drilled in a wood front of the case. The movement screws to the back side of the board with the hole in it, and the dial gets mounted on the front of it.


3. Dial

Dial Description
This is a light weight metal dial with roman numerals. The width of the dial is 6 inch and has a 5 inch time track. The time track is the ring just outside the numerals. This white roman dial has a golt trim ring.

Dial Installation
This movement is sold as a front mount intention, the case will need a 4 or 5 inch hole drilled in a wood front of the case. The movement screws to the back side of the board with the hole in it, and the dial gets mounted on the front of it.


4. Hour and Minute Hands

Hands Description
Black Serpentine style hour and minute hands sized for the dial diameter.

Hand Installation
The hour hand has a round hole and is only a friction fit onto the post. It will be able to move forward or backward to adjust the time. The minute hand has a 2mm square hole in the rotatable mounting bushing. The minute hand is secured with the included minute hand nut. If the clock ends up chiming at other times than the quarters, do the following. Take the minute hand off of the clock, this is the longer of the two hands. With this minute hand off of the clock, turn it upside down, you will see it has a square hole where it attaches to the clock. Well this square hole is in a bushing that will rotate WITHIN the minute hand itself. So just use needle nose pliers to turn this bushing so the square in the bushing rotates. Then put the hand back on the clock and see if it is pointing to the correct place where it chimed. Then set to time.


6. Pendulum

Pendulum Description
Grid R and A style pendulum with a hook top. At the bottom of the pendulum is the rating assembly this is only a nut and threads that hold the pendulum bob on. It is called the rating nut and threads as it is used to adjust the time keeping of the clock. If you turn the nut at the bottom as to raise the pendulum bob a little, this will speed up time. Reverse for slowing of time.

Pendulum Installation
Do not touch the pendulum with your bare hands as you can discolor it. It is best to use gloves or a rag to handle it. After the movement is in, its only a matter of hanging the pendulum on its leader. The term leader is that pendulum hanger on the back of the movement that swings back and forth. Be gentle with the pendulum and leader, no violent moves, just hang it on there and then stop the pendulum from wobbling around.

Clock Weight Shell Cover 60mm

Clock WeightsWeights DescriptionWeights stuck highHermle Weight SpecsUrgos Weight SpecsKieninger Weight Specs

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Grandfather Clock Weights Description

The Grandfather Clock Weights Description on this web page will cover what is meant by weights and their parts. Any part of the weight is available on its own, or the entire weight complete is offered. If a complete clock weight is needed, we would need to determine the appropriate weight needed for the clock. This requires getting the information off of the back plate of the brass movement itself. This information will not be on any of the paperwork or clock case. Once the movement number is obtained, it can be cross reference that with the weight chart. The other piece of information that you need is the diameter of your bob. The bob is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum.

The weight chart

Before using the chart, it is needed to know who made the clock movement. This can be deceiving because the movement can have any name on it, but it may not be the true maker. For example, a Hermle unit may have the name Sligh, Ridgeway, Howard Miller and so on. The numbers on the movement is what will lead to getting the correct manufacturer of the movement not the names on the movement. These numbers will be stamped right on the back plate. The movement identification page can be used to find out who made it. Once the manufacturer is known and the starting numbers of the movement, the chart can be used to see the weight specifications.

Avoiding the weight chart

There is also another way to go about this task which may be easier. If the movement was made in Germany, post WW2, we can safely make the following assumptions. If the movement is square and chain driven, it will require [email protected] lbs and [email protected] lbs. These are available in either 47mm or 44mm diameters. If the pendulum bob is 8 1/2 inches or more, change that rule to [email protected] lbs and [email protected] in 47mm or 44mm. A movement that is rectangle in either chain or cable will use [email protected] and [email protected] LBS in 60mm diameter. This changes to [email protected] and [email protected] in 60mm diameter if the pendulum bob is 8 1/2 inches or wider. These specifications do not apply if your clock has 5 or 9 big tubes on the back. Also this rule is not for all clocks but the vast majority of the post WW2 German units.

Close enough is good enough

The weight specs are listed as 4.7 or 6.6, however this is really being too picky. If you get it close to those numbers that is fine. In fact if you order a 4.7 lb weight, it may come 5.3 or whatever, but that is just fine. There has to be some sort of reference for the factory to label the weights so it is what it is. Just know if your a pound over its fine. If its a little under, that is fine also. They do not have to be exact.

Often wrong from the start

In fact, there is a lot of clocks in the world sold new with the wrong Clock Weights on them from the start. Clockworks.com will do a repair and they will say the clock ran for 30 years straight and come to find out they had weights that were a pound or two too heavy. If the weights are a little too heavy it is fine. A lighter weight may or may not be fine because it may not trigger the movement to work as designed.

Grandfather Clock Weights Description - Conclusion

Weights are not cheap mainly because they are so heavy to keep, ship, store, move from here to there. Sure one weight set of three is less than 30 lbs but that adds up quickly in a stack of weights sets. With that said, we don't want to ship these back and forth. It is best to get the right weights the first time. To return these is not an inexpensive or easy task. For example, suppose we charge $30 to ship these. They are wrong for some reason it's now $40 to get it back and another $30 to reship. UPS charges a fee to send a call tag for them to come back. That is $110 to UPS for no reason. So if there are questions, please ask.

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Grandfather Clock Weights Stuck

The weights can get stuck in the high position if over wound. Some larger clocks have over wind protection to prevent this. The grandmother and grandfather chain drive units often do not have this feature. When winding the weights up make sure you can always see the top of the weight. Never go to the point where you can’t see the top of the shiny weight covers.

Chime weight stuck

The chime weight is on the right as you face the clock and has the heaviest weight. Using cloth gloves, or at least a cloth of some kind, pull down on the weight some. This is the same as making the weight weigh more. At the same time, turn the minute hand past the quarter hour to see if it will engage the chime. When you advance the time and make it chime, the weight will slowly come down. This will hopefully be enough to activate and run the chime on its own.

Time weight stuck

The time weight is the center weight which can be a light or heavy depending on bob size. This is the hardest weight to deal with out of the three. Try pulling down some while swinging the pendulum to see if it will start running on its own when you let go. If this does not work, take off the pendulum. All you will have is the pendulum leader hanging on the back of the movement. This will make it tick tock faster than if the pendulum was on. As you pull down some on the weight, the leader will tick tock faster. The weight will then come down enough to run the clock. If all else fails, and it’s a chain driven clock, you would need to cut the chain in half, or break a link, to take the movement out of the clock. With the movement out of the clock you can restring the chain and fix the link that broke.

Strike weight stuck

The strike weight is on the left as you face the clock and has the lightest weight. Only after the chime weight is operating correctly can you work on the strike weight. This is because if the clock does not run through the chimes, it will never get to the point where it’s supposed to strike the hours out. With some cloth gloves on, or at least a cloth of some kind, pull down on the weight some. Again, this is the same as making the weight weigh more. Doing this will make the clock strike. You will have to advance the minute hand and let it chime each quarter until it plays the top of the hour song. Then it will be time for you to pull a little on the weight when it’s supposed to strike out the hours. If you keep advancing the time with the minute hand, as to make it chime and strike, then slowly the weight will come down enough to be able to activate and run the strike on its own.

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Hermle clock weight specifications

If 8.5 pendulum bob or larger is used, the time weight should be the same as the chime weight instead. (Tubular Bell movements are an exception)

Urgos clock weight specifications

If 8.5 pendulum bob or larger is used, the time weight should be the same as the chime weight instead. (Tubular Bell movements are an exception)

Kieninger clock weight specifications

If 8.5 pendulum bob or larger is used, the time weight should be the same as the chime weight instead. (Tubular Bell movements are an exception)

Clock Weight Shell Cover 60mm

Polished Clock Weight Shell Only - 2 5/16 x 9 5/8 Inch (60 x 245mm). This is the outer shell only with no lead insert. Good to replace tarnished or stained weight shells that are discolored from being handled. Includes the top hook, bottom nut, end caps and outer shell.

47mm Clock Weight Shell

Clock WeightsWeights DescriptionWeights stuck highHermle Weight SpecsUrgos Weight SpecsKieninger Weight Specs

Please view these information tabs to learn about our Mechanical Grandfather Clock Weights

Grandfather Clock Weights Description

The Grandfather Clock Weights Description on this web page will cover what is meant by weights and their parts. Any part of the weight is available on its own, or the entire weight complete is offered. If a complete clock weight is needed, we would need to determine the appropriate weight needed for the clock. This requires getting the information off of the back plate of the brass movement itself. This information will not be on any of the paperwork or clock case. Once the movement number is obtained, it can be cross reference that with the weight chart. The other piece of information that you need is the diameter of your bob. The bob is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum.

The weight chart

Before using the chart, it is needed to know who made the clock movement. This can be deceiving because the movement can have any name on it, but it may not be the true maker. For example, a Hermle unit may have the name Sligh, Ridgeway, Howard Miller and so on. The numbers on the movement is what will lead to getting the correct manufacturer of the movement not the names on the movement. These numbers will be stamped right on the back plate. The movement identification page can be used to find out who made it. Once the manufacturer is known and the starting numbers of the movement, the chart can be used to see the weight specifications.

Avoiding the weight chart

There is also another way to go about this task which may be easier. If the movement was made in Germany, post WW2, we can safely make the following assumptions. If the movement is square and chain driven, it will require [email protected] lbs and [email protected] lbs. These are available in either 47mm or 44mm diameters. If the pendulum bob is 8 1/2 inches or more, change that rule to [email protected] lbs and [email protected] in 47mm or 44mm. A movement that is rectangle in either chain or cable will use [email protected] and [email protected] LBS in 60mm diameter. This changes to [email protected] and [email protected] in 60mm diameter if the pendulum bob is 8 1/2 inches or wider. These specifications do not apply if your clock has 5 or 9 big tubes on the back. Also this rule is not for all clocks but the vast majority of the post WW2 German units.

Close enough is good enough

The weight specs are listed as 4.7 or 6.6, however this is really being too picky. If you get it close to those numbers that is fine. In fact if you order a 4.7 lb weight, it may come 5.3 or whatever, but that is just fine. There has to be some sort of reference for the factory to label the weights so it is what it is. Just know if your a pound over its fine. If its a little under, that is fine also. They do not have to be exact.

Often wrong from the start

In fact, there is a lot of clocks in the world sold new with the wrong Clock Weights on them from the start. Clockworks.com will do a repair and they will say the clock ran for 30 years straight and come to find out they had weights that were a pound or two too heavy. If the weights are a little too heavy it is fine. A lighter weight may or may not be fine because it may not trigger the movement to work as designed.

Grandfather Clock Weights Description - Conclusion

Weights are not cheap mainly because they are so heavy to keep, ship, store, move from here to there. Sure one weight set of three is less than 30 lbs but that adds up quickly in a stack of weights sets. With that said, we don't want to ship these back and forth. It is best to get the right weights the first time. To return these is not an inexpensive or easy task. For example, suppose we charge $30 to ship these. They are wrong for some reason it's now $40 to get it back and another $30 to reship. UPS charges a fee to send a call tag for them to come back. That is $110 to UPS for no reason. So if there are questions, please ask.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire

Grandfather Clock Weights Stuck

The weights can get stuck in the high position if over wound. Some larger clocks have over wind protection to prevent this. The grandmother and grandfather chain drive units often do not have this feature. When winding the weights up make sure you can always see the top of the weight. Never go to the point where you can’t see the top of the shiny weight covers.

Chime weight stuck

The chime weight is on the right as you face the clock and has the heaviest weight. Using cloth gloves, or at least a cloth of some kind, pull down on the weight some. This is the same as making the weight weigh more. At the same time, turn the minute hand past the quarter hour to see if it will engage the chime. When you advance the time and make it chime, the weight will slowly come down. This will hopefully be enough to activate and run the chime on its own.

Time weight stuck

The time weight is the center weight which can be a light or heavy depending on bob size. This is the hardest weight to deal with out of the three. Try pulling down some while swinging the pendulum to see if it will start running on its own when you let go. If this does not work, take off the pendulum. All you will have is the pendulum leader hanging on the back of the movement. This will make it tick tock faster than if the pendulum was on. As you pull down some on the weight, the leader will tick tock faster. The weight will then come down enough to run the clock. If all else fails, and it’s a chain driven clock, you would need to cut the chain in half, or break a link, to take the movement out of the clock. With the movement out of the clock you can restring the chain and fix the link that broke.

Strike weight stuck

The strike weight is on the left as you face the clock and has the lightest weight. Only after the chime weight is operating correctly can you work on the strike weight. This is because if the clock does not run through the chimes, it will never get to the point where it’s supposed to strike the hours out. With some cloth gloves on, or at least a cloth of some kind, pull down on the weight some. Again, this is the same as making the weight weigh more. Doing this will make the clock strike. You will have to advance the minute hand and let it chime each quarter until it plays the top of the hour song. Then it will be time for you to pull a little on the weight when it’s supposed to strike out the hours. If you keep advancing the time with the minute hand, as to make it chime and strike, then slowly the weight will come down enough to be able to activate and run the strike on its own.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire

Hermle clock weight specifications

If 8.5 pendulum bob or larger is used, the time weight should be the same as the chime weight instead. (Tubular Bell movements are an exception)

Urgos clock weight specifications

If 8.5 pendulum bob or larger is used, the time weight should be the same as the chime weight instead. (Tubular Bell movements are an exception)

Kieninger clock weight specifications

If 8.5 pendulum bob or larger is used, the time weight should be the same as the chime weight instead. (Tubular Bell movements are an exception)

Clock Weight Shell Cover 47mm

Polished Clock Weight Shell Only - 1 7/8 x 10 11/16 Inch (47 x 272mm). This is the outer shell only with no lead insert. Good to replace tarnished or stained weight shells that are discolored from being handled. Includes the top hook, bottom nut, end caps and outer shell.

Jauch PL77 Clock Movement Kit

Jauch PL77 (old unit marked PL77 Westminster)
  • Jauch clock movement conversion
  • Hands, shims, top hook, screws included
  • Chime weight filler also included
Every Jauch clock movement is discontinued as the company is out of business. What this means is you would be ordering a new movement made by Hermle instead. The Hermle clock movements are of equivalent quality and size and have the same functions. These conversion kits are only good for the three weight Jauch floor clock movements. If your Jauch movement is anything other than this it will have to be repaired instead, please email us to set up a repair to [email protected] . If you do have the three weight Jauch movement then your on the correct path to get your clock running again with a brand new Hermle movement conversion kit as described. The following modifications are usually required:
  • The dial must be attached to the case rather than the movement. There is a 50/50 chance really, sometimes the dial is attached to the case and sometimes it is attached to the movement with dial feet. If it's attached to the movement then you will need to unscrew or chop off the dial feet and attach it to the wood case instead.
  • The replacement for the Jauch clock movement would have to be shimmed higher (Included)
  • New lead weight would be installed into the existing right hand chime weight shell. (Included)
  • The top hook on the pendulum will have to get swapped (Included)
  • The pendulum may or may not have to get shortened. If the clock is too slow, even with the bob all the way up, the pendulum stick must get cut 1 1/2 inches shorter.
  • If you need assistance on replacing the Jauch clock movement you can call 800-381-7458
The Hermle clock movement is a Westminster Chime unit with 8 hammers on the back. This high quality German movement comes pre oiled and includes its chains, leader, suspension spring and hand nut. Removal of this movement is easy and we provide instructions for the installation. This movement is in stock and can ship today. We are full time clock makers and retailers both, so if you need any assistance with install we can help. Replacing a movement is less costly than a overhaul. These movements last 25 years before needing an over haul, but since its still being made at a fair price it is so much better just to replace. The clock will be problem free right away instead of months, last longer than a overhaul and its prelubricated.

Mechanical Wall or Mantle Clock Kit WMKIT105

This is a quality 8 day, German made, spring driven unit. It has a 130-678 German made Hermle clock movement with the two hammers on the back that strike bells (included).

The kit comes with the movement, bells, hands and a key. This is a complete clock with out the wood case or clock dial. The clock case would be typically a shelf style and this is to be built on the customers end.

This clock movement is also the ideal replacement for an antique unit that has worn past the point of repair. The rear winding arbors means the clock is wound from the back instead of the front, this means there is no need to match the winding arbor holes in the current dial as they will not be used. Also since it includes the two pre mounted bells, there is no hassle with the chime block or gong from the old unit. This is the easiest and best quality solution for replacing a antique time strike unit that is lived its life.

This is a nice compact quality made round unit that runs for 8 days on a wind. Mounting the movement is usually done in the front with the front movement mounts (included).

The special pricing on this kit is only due to the fact that we happen to have overstock on them. As you can see the price is below even the price of a movement alone, and you get everything mentioned.

Mounting Instructions

Thank you for purchasing this clock kit! This is a quality German made Hermle 8 day key wind movement that will withstand the www of time. Here are some simple instructions to get you on your way.

1. Adjust the bell hammers
The mounted two bell strike system will need some final adjusting before mounting the movement. This is because during shipping the hammers may not be aligned for a crisp musical bell tone. The hammer heads need to be away from the bell at rest, about 1/8 inch away. This is adjusted with your fingers just bend the hammer head wire up / down / side / side to get the hammer heads into position at that 1/8 inch away measurement. This will produce a nice bell sound with out thudding, double hitting, or missing the bells completely.

2. Mount the Movement
The Hermle 131 movement series is pretty diversified with its mounting capabilities as it can be mounted in the front or the back depending on your needs. It is best to come up with a mount that allows the back of the movement to be accessed without too much hassle, in case you need to change the suspension spring at some point or if the leader needs to be adjusted.

Front
For a front mounting method you would use the enclosed dog ear looking brackets and put them on the front plates pillar posts, under the hex nut that is holding the front on. Of course you would want to do only one at a time so the movement does not come apart on you, just remove one hex nut, put the bracket on, and then put the hex nut back on. Then do the rest the same way, one at a time. Since this is a front mount you’re going with, the movement will get attached to the front of the clock case with a board between the front of the movement and the clock dial.

Back
This will either go into the back of the clock case or a wood mount that will support the movement but at the same time not get into the way of the pendulum assembly at all. If you choose to mount in a different fashion this is fine just take these long posts right off.

3. Mount the Dial
There is no dial that comes with this kit. The unique feature of this unit is its rear winding arbors, this means there is no holes to drill in the dial for winding arbors. You can therefore use this unit in any clock case and with any dial you choose. You can use a preexisting dial from an antique mantle clock case or purchase a dial from us to go along with the movement kit.

4. Install the Hands
After the dial is mounted it’s time to put the hands on the clock. First comes the hour hand that is installed only in a friction fit. You put the hour hand on and twist and push down toward the dial at the same time. The more down the hour hand is toward the dial, the tighter fit it is as the hour hand post is tapered. You want it on fairly snug but not touching the dial or the minute hand that comes next. The hour hand, the dial, the minute hand should all be parallel with each other and not hitting each other during any part of their rotations.

Hands for these modern German units are designed with a rotate-able center mount in the minute hand. You need to know this as when you set up the clock at first it will not strike exactly on the hour or quarters like it should. To correct this issue it is only needed to take the minute hand off and use needle nose pliers to spin the center mounting bushing independent of the hand itself. You hold the minute hand in one hand, the needle nose pliers in the other while grabbing and spinning this center hand bushing. What this does is align that square hole in the way you need it to mount so the hand is pointing to the correct time when it chimes.

Bell Strike Clock Kit GMKIT07

Bell Strike Clock Kit
This quality chain driven Bell clock kit will strike the hours on a nice deep sounding bell, and then strike once for the half hour.

This is a great clock kit for a small shaker style grandmother or granddaughter sized clock case.

Here are some measurements you need to know to build your case, but of course the best thing to do is to get the movement first and then build the case afterward.

The two weight chain drive and the bell makes this simplistic clock kit would make a nice smaller sized floor clock. The Tempus Fugit dials hump top can be easily zipped off for a 11 x 11 dial instead, if needed.

The kit comes with the movement, bell, the dial, pendulum, and hands. This is a complete clock with out the wood case



Components are installed in this order

1. Bell

Bell Description
The Bell is 5 inches in diameter and is cast brass.

Bell Installation
You can bolt the bell anywhere in the top of the case you would like. The strike hammer on the movement is very long, so it can be shortened to whatever length will hit the bell where you mounted it. The hammer head on the strike wire is only on with a set screw so after the rod is cut, you can slide it on at any position. The hammer should strike the bell somewhere close to the outer edge. The hammer should be about 1/8 inch away from the bell at rest for the best sound. If its less or more it will thud or double hit usually.


2. Movement

Movement Description
The chain driven Bell Strike movement will run 8 days on a single wind up. It comes factory oiled and ready for installation. It includes its chains, mounting screws and washers, the leader, the suspension spring, and hand nut. It has two square shaped outer plates made of brass with the puzzle of gearing between them, and then it has the hammers on the top for the bell. The hand shaft, (shaft that the hands go on) is 27.2mm from the front plate and all the way out.

Movement Installation
The movement will need a seat board to mount on. A seat board can consist of only two parallel board strips that are approximately 2 x 2 square. These two boards run along the bottom of the hood of the case, spaced about 1 inch apart. The front plate of the movement sits on one board while the back plate sits on the other. The chains drop down between the boards to suspend the movement in the air where everything else will dangle from it. The movement is secured from underneath with the included two screws and rectangle washers. The washers are rectangle as it will clamp each seat board while the screw goes up to the movements bottom pillar post's threaded hole.


3. Dial

Dial Description
Includes a Tempus Fugit style dial that is 11 x 14 7/8. The silver and brass tone dial has raised numerals.

Dial Installation
The first thing to do is install the selector switch to turn off the chimes to the clock. Find the small steel arm that is about 1 1/2 inches in length with a set screw. This will go on the arm coming out of the clock movements right hand side. That is to say, your right as you face the front of the clock movement there is an arm sticking out the movement. The selector arm gets put on by sliding over that larger arm and secured with the set screw. It may or may not already be mounted on the movement, but if it is not, it only needs to be able to come through the slot at 3 o'clock. This will enable the customer to change the chime to silent.
Mounting the dial is easy as it only has to be attached to the wood case. The usual way this is done is drilling four pilot holes in the corners of the dial and use some small brass screws to secure it.


4. Hour and Minute Hands

Hands Description
Black Serpentine style hour and minute hands sized for the dial diameter.

Hand Installation
The hour hand has a round hole and is only a friction fit onto the post. It will be able to move forward or backward to adjust the time. The minute hand has a 2mm square hole in the rotatable mounting bushing. The minute hand is secured with the included minute hand nut. If the clock ends up chiming at other times than the quarters, do the following. Take the minute hand off of the clock, this is the longer of the two hands. With this minute hand off of the clock, turn it upside down, you will see it has a square hole where it attaches to the clock. Well this square hole is in a bushing that will rotate WITHIN the minute hand itself. So just use needle nose pliers to turn this bushing so the square in the bushing rotates. Then put the hand back on the clock and see if it is pointing to the correct place where it chimed. Then set to time.


6. Pendulum

Pendulum Description
The wood stick pendulum will come unstained so it can be stained like the case on the customers end. It is a simple design that is good for the rustic antique style look. The pendulum length on this unit is measured from the top of the clock movements suspension post and all the way down. This measurement is 75cm and includes the pendulum tip to tip, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension that the leader hangs on.

Pendulum Installation
The wood stick style pendulum will include the bob included separate in the packaging. The bob will need to be mounted to the bottom of the sticks rating nut threads, with the nut on the threads to secure it. This is called the rating assembly and it holds the pendulum bob on and is used to adjust the time keeping of the clock. If you turn the nut at the bottom as to raise the pendulum bob a little, this will speed up time. Reverse for slowing of time.

After the movement is in, its only a matter of hanging the pendulum on its leader. The term leader is that pendulum hanger on the back of the movement that swings back and forth. Be gentle with the pendulum and leader, no violent moves, just hang it on there and then stop the pendulum from wobbling around.


7. Weights

Weights Description
The kit includes three polished brass tone weights that are 47mm in diameter. The weights are shipped complete with fillers already assembled. Please note, these are tricky to ship as upon shifting back and forth sometimes the end caps get slightly damaged or concave. If this is the situation just let us know and we will ship out new end caps free of charge.

Weight Installation
Do not touch the weights with your bare hands as you can discolor them. It is best to use gloves or a rag to handle them. These weights may or may not all weigh the same, usually they do not. If they do not, the heaviest weight goes on your right as you face the clock. Out of the two that are left, if there is one lighter weight, this will go on your left as you face the clock. The reason for the inconsistency of the weight specifications is due to factors such as pendulum bob diameter and also the weights function. To hang the weights on is easy, there are three chains with the clock that loop over there sprockets in the movement. Just hang the weight on the side of the chain that has the hook on it, and then stop it from wobbling around.

Jauch PL78 Clock Movement Kit

Jauch PL78

(old unit marked PL78 Westminster)

  • Jauch clock movement conversion
  • Hands, shims, top hook, screws included
  • Chime weight filler also included

Every Jauch clock movement is discontinued as the company is out of business. What this means is you would be ordering a new movement made by Hermle instead.

The Hermle clock movements are of equivalent quality and size and have the same functions. These conversion kits are only good for the three weight Jauch floor clock movements. If your Jauch movement is anything other than this it will have to be repaired instead, please email us to set up a repair to [email protected] . If you do have the three weight Jauch movement then your on the correct path to get your clock running again with a brand new Hermle movement conversion kit as described.

The following modifications are usually required:
  • The dial must be attached to the case rather than the movement. There is a 50/50 chance really, sometimes the dial is attached to the case and sometimes it is attached to the movement with dial feet. If it's attached to the movement then you will need to unscrew or chop off the dial feet and attach it to the wood case instead.
  • The replacement for the Jauch clock movement would have to be shimmed higher (Included)
  • New lead weight would be installed into the existing right hand chime weight shell. (Included)
  • The top hook on the pendulum will have to get swapped (Included)
  • The pendulum may or may not have to get shortened. If the clock is too slow, even with the bob all the way up, the pendulum stick must get cut 1 1/2 inches shorter.
  • If you need assistance on replacing the Jauch clock movement you can call 800-381-7458
  • If this does not work out for you and you have the original packaging so it can be resold as new, you can return this kit for a refund.

The Hermle clock movement is a Westminster Chime unit with 8 hammers on the back.

This high quality German movement comes pre oiled and includes its chains, leader, suspension spring and hand nut.

Removal of this movement is easy and we provide instructions for the installation. This movement is in stock and can ship today. We are full time clock makers and retailers both, so if you need any assistance with install we can help.

Replacing a movement is less costly than a overhaul. These movements last 25 years before needing an over haul, but since its still being made at a fair price it is so much better just to replace. The clock will be problem free right away instead of months, last longer than a overhaul and its prelubricated.

Mechanical Grandfather Clock Kit GFKIT02

Mechanical Clock KitsTypes of clock kitsMovement optionsGet the kit before making the caseMaking the seat boardPendulum size info

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Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available include wall clocks, mantle (shelf) clocks, and floor clocks. Floor models includes the grand daughter, mother, and father series.

Chime types

All of the above, in the past, have been made with every chime type. In other words there are all these various ways to make noise, lets list them. There is the quarterly sounds that play a tune ever quarter hour, this are most common in the songs Westminster only, Or triple chime that includes Westminster St Micheal, or Wittington. As for the other noise makers, we call them strike clocks because they only strike out the hours and usually bong once on the half hour. These include Gong strike (coiled gong on the back or below the movement), Bell strike, or Bim Bam (sounds like its name, on two or three strike rods).

Mechanical clock kits

Mechanical Clock Kit

Wall / Mantle kits

Either weight driven or spring with spring driven most common. The weight driven is less common because of all the weight that is hanging on the wall. If there is no pendulum this means it has a balance wheel instead more like a watch.

Granddaughter / Grandmother clock kits

Granddaughters are usually spring driven with no weights. The grandmothers are usually chain driven with three weights for the chime units or two weights for any other strike styles. Its a shorter clock overall compared to the grandfather clocks.

Grandfather clock kits

Typically cable driven with three weights and triple chimes. This means the weights will hang on cables instead of chains, and plays your choice of three songs. Not always triple chime because some are Westminster only. This is the largest and tallest of the floor clocks.

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Mechanical clock-kit movement options

The following are the various options for Mechanical clock-kit movements to be utilized in building a clock. We offer predefined kits at clockworks.com, however we cant include them all as it would overwhelming. It maybe possible to alter any aspect in the predefined clock kits that are listed. Please call to let us help with kit modifications or just general assistance to 800 381 7458.


Floor Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only or triple chime. Both of these Mechanical Clock Kit options play a melody every 15 minutes and require a three weight movement. Also there is the bell strike option that will play on the top of the hour whatever hour it is, and once on the half hour.

Pendulum

Options are the length, the bob diameter, and if you would like a wood stick style The Pendulum or a fancy lyre style The Pendulum. The wood stick style is more antique look and the lyre is the contemporary style.

Hammer location

Either on the back for standard depth cases, or for the shallow depth we can do a side hammer unit.

Dial

Either a phase of the moon style, or just the hump top that says Tempus Fugit. Or we can zip off any moon The Dial or TF dial to provide a very nice square metal dial for you with no hump on the top at all. Another option is to use heavy paper stock on a thin board, use spray glue to make it stay.


Wall Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only, Triple chime, Bim Bam, gong or bell. Lots of chime options there, but whatever you would like to listen to out of these we can do usually.

Pendulum

Either the wood stick style or sometimes if its short enough, we can put a brass rod pendulum in. The Mechanical Clock Kit options brass rod pendulum is different than the fancy lyre pendulum as its just a brass rod going straight down with out all the decor.

Hammer Location

Includes the back, or on the side, or even the bottom on the wall clock kits.

Dial

Square dial made of paper stock that gets spray glued to a thin board, or a metal dial. In Arabic or Roman numerals. The dial on a wall clock would be mounted to the wood trim that goes around the dial, not interlocking with the movement. One style you cant get these days are the round dials that do lock into the movement, to have the appearance of the dial just floating in the air with the mounting hidden such as the Vienna regulator style.


Mantle or Shelf Clocks

Chime type

Is all of them really, you can have Westminster, triple chime, gong, bell, or Bim Bam strike for Mechanical clock movement kit options.

Pendulum

Options include metal rod to a decor for the kitchen style clocks are available, or a wood stick The Pendulum if the clock is tall enough. For the shorter mantle units it will be just a round bob that is usually adjustable for time keeping.

Dial

The hardest on the mantle units. To get a The Dial with bezel with glass in convex or flat is ideal, however not always possible. If the situation calls for this type of clock dial, you may want to chase a different clock design to make, it is not often it works out well unfortunately. The shelf clocks are easier as it has a door that closes with glass in the front, rather than the round brass bezel with dial and glass all in one combination.


This concludes the Mechanical Clock Kit options. Best to call and discuss the clock kits with us at 800 381 7458

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Clock kit before building the clock case

It is important to order the clock kit before building the clock case. If the case is built before getting the mechanical clock kit it is possible the kit will not fit.

Why order first before building

It is possible to have a difficultly finding or adapting a clock kit to the current case built. The ideal dial size or other things would wanted but these items may not exist in the size needed for the case. Measurements that need to be correct for the clock kit to fit into the case. Order the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the case. With the clock kit set up on a stand while working on the case it can be measured. The various items on the clock kit such as the pendulum swing and dial size is known exactly.

Not all clocks can be replicated

Not all clocks can be replicated. Many of the antique clocks had clock dials that are in a size that is just not made on the market anymore. The grandfather clocks back in the day had over sized Clock dials with ships on them, cant get those anymore, as well as many other ones. If the dial is found ok, it will still need to be drilled out to wind the clock through the dial. This way it will have a hole to put the key or crank into. The only style clock dial that the winding holes are not required would be on chain driven clocks.

Alternate kit component availability

Clockworks.com offers a large variety of clock movements so this is the most easy thing to get. However when it comes to some components the resources can get slim on specific requests. Clock dials are the hardest part because there are so many shapes sizes and options. Such as round dials, square, hump top with no moon, and moon dials.

Summery

It is wise to get the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the clock case. Best to have the movement kit set up in the work shop to look at, get used too it, and measure what is needed prior to case making.

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Making a Seat Board

A seat board is the mount that the weight driven movement sits upon. The movement sits on this with the cables or chains hanging directly down between the boards.

Typical approximate dimensions

Many of the modern clocks have this about 16 inches wide and is 2 and a half inches deep but this would vary on the clock case dimensions being worked on. In the center of the mounting board is a hole that is 1 inch wide going across the center of the 2 and a half inch deep seat board.

Putting it together

The hole is wide enough for the movement to sit on the board with its chains hanging down in the center. Then the screws with the rectangle washers seat board screws and washers can go up into the movement’s arbors on the bottom. Even easier would be just to mount two, three quarter or 1 inch square boards running parallel, which are 1 inch apart, across the inside of the clock case, this is really all a mounting board needs to consist of. The only thing that has to happen is the movement is in the air with the chains dangling down in between these boards. The boards just can’t be so wide that the pendulum rubs it on the back of the movement.

With the movement mounting in the air as described all that needs to be done is have the chimeblock mounted on the back of the clock case so the hammers can engage with them and make the chime sound. You will hang the weights and pendulum on the movement obvious places, and lock the dial into the movement from the front.

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Grandfather Clock Pendulum Information

The length of the pendulum on German units comes in a few CM options. German units measure the pendulum from the top of the movement to the bottom of the nut threads. The pendulum itself, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

Pendulum length information

To know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options

A Lyre grandfather clock pendulum comes with either a 6 1/2, 8 1/2, or 10 1/2 inch bob diameters. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum . The CM length on the movement will indicate the length of the pendulum from the TOP of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads. This is an approximate length that depends on other factors such as bob diameter and weight of the pendulum . Basically if the CM is 94CM the pendulum itself will be about 35 inches tip to tip off of the clock, and the 114CM option would put this same measurement at approximately 44 inches.

Mechanical Grandfather Clock Kit GFKIT02

This quality cable driven clock kit has a triple chime movement that plays on the quarter hours. Then it will strike out the hourly count when its done with the chime. The chime selections are Westminster, Wittington, St Micheals or just silence. This is a larger clock size that will work with Grandfather clock cases. The clock case would need to be able to except the movements minimum space requirements as indicated on the picture.


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Hermle Clock Kit 248
  • Hermle 1161-853
  • Triple Chime
  • Cable Driven
  • 11 x 15.5 Moon Dial
  • Lyre Pendulum
  • Back 12 Rod Strike
  • Movement = 140 x 220mm
  • Serpentine Hands
  • German Movement
  • 3-year warranty
Listen to Westminster
Listen to Wittington
Listen to St Micheals

GrandMother Clock Kit GMKIT05

Slim Grandmother Clock Kit
This quality grandmother clock kit has a Westminster chime movement that it progressively at the quarter hours. Then it will strike out the hourly count when its done with the chime. It includes a phase of the moon dial, and a chime silence switch.

This is a nice size that will work with a Grandmother clock case where there is not much depth. The side strike hammers really reduces the minimum depth requirement needed. The clock case would need to be able to except the movements minimum space requirements as indicated on the picture.

The Pendulum Length Options
The length of the pendulum comes in a few options. The Germans measure the pendulum length from the top of the movement and all the way down to the bottom of the pendulums rating nut threads. So this measurement is the pendulum itself from tip to tip off of the clock, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

If you want to know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options
The 'Bob' is the round disc at the bottom of the pendulum, it can be a variety of widths. To select the width of the bob, you need to first measure how wide the waist of the clock is. The bob size selected should have at least two inches on each side to swing back and forth.



Components are installed in this order

1. Chimeblock

Chimeblock Description
The chimeblock will mount to the back of the clock case by the included hardware. It has 5 premounted, pretuned chime rods and an overall length of about 10 inches if measured through the block.

Chimeblock Installation
Mounting the chimeblock on a side strike is usually done with a simple wood board. The chime block will bolt to a board that gets mounted someway in the clock case so it will be at the left side of the movement where the hammers will hit the rods.

The hammers should each hit a rod and can be fine tuned by hand. The way this is done is by using your fingers bend the hammer wire so the hammers head is about 1/8 of an inch from there chime rod. This is where the hammer head will not thud or double hit. If you bend each hammer with the fingers until you get a nice crisp note down the line, the chime melody will be perfect. The top of the hammer heads should be about 1/4 or 1/2 inch down from the block itself.


2. Movement

Movement Description
The chain driven Westminster movement will run 8 days on a single wind up. It comes factory oiled and ready for installation. It includes its chains, mounting screws and washers, the leader, the suspension spring, hand nut and moon dial gear. It has two square shaped outer plates made of brass with the puzzle of gearing between them, and then it has the hammers on the back, 4 on one side for the chime and 4 on the other for the strike.

Movement Installation
The movement will need a seat board to mount on. A seat board can consist of only two parallel board strips that are approximately 2 x 2 square. These two boards run along the bottom of the hood of the case, spaced about 1 inch apart. The front plate of the movement sits on one board while the back plate sits on the other. The chains drop down between the boards to suspend the movement in the air where everything else will dangle from it. The movement is secured from underneath with the included two screws and rectangle washers. The washers are rectangle as it will clamp each seat board while the screw goes up to the movements bottom pillar post's threaded hole.


3. Dial

Dial Description
Includes a Tempus Fugit style dial that is 11 x 14 7/8. The silver and brass tone dial has raised numerals. The Tempus Fugit dial's hump top can be easily zipped off for a 11 x 11 dial instead, if needed.

Dial Installation
The first thing to do is install the selector switch to turn off the chimes to the clock. Find the small steel arm that is about 1 1/2 inches in length with a set screw. This will go on the arm coming out of the clock movements right hand side. That is to say, your right as you face the front of the clock movement there is an arm sticking out the movement. The selector arm gets put on by sliding over that larger arm and secured with the set screw. It may or may not already be mounted on the movement, but if it is not, it only needs to be able to come through the slot at 3 o'clock. This will enable the customer to change the chime to silent.
Mounting the dial is easy as it only has to be attached to the wood case. The usual way this is done is drilling four pilot holes in the corners of the dial and use some small brass screws to secure it.


4. Hour and Minute Hands

Hands Description
Black Serpentine style hour and minute hands sized for the dial diameter.

Hand Installation
The hour hand has a round hole and is only a friction fit onto the post. It will be able to move forward or backward to adjust the time. The minute hand has a 2mm square hole in the rotatable mounting bushing. The minute hand is secured with the included minute hand nut. If the clock ends up chiming at other times than the quarters, do the following. Take the minute hand off of the clock, this is the longer of the two hands. With this minute hand off of the clock, turn it upside down, you will see it has a square hole where it attaches to the clock. Well this square hole is in a bushing that will rotate WITHIN the minute hand itself. So just use needle nose pliers to turn this bushing so the square in the bushing rotates. Then put the hand back on the clock and see if it is pointing to the correct place where it chimed. Then set to time.


6. Pendulum

Pendulum Description
The wood stick pendulum will come unstained so it can be stained like the case on the customers end. It is a simple design that is good for the rustic antique style look.

Pendulum Installation
The wood stick style pendulum will include the bob included separate in the packaging. The bob will need to be mounted to the bottom of the sticks rating nut threads, with the nut on the threads to secure it. This is called the rating assembly and it holds the pendulum bob on and is used to adjust the time keeping of the clock. If you turn the nut at the bottom as to raise the pendulum bob a little, this will speed up time. Reverse for slowing of time.

After the movement is in, its only a matter of hanging the pendulum on its leader. The term leader is that pendulum hanger on the back of the movement that swings back and forth. Be gentle with the pendulum and leader, no violent moves, just hang it on there and then stop the pendulum from wobbling around.


7. Weights

Weights Description
The kit includes three polished brass tone weights that are 47mm in diameter. The weights are shipped complete with fillers already assembled. Please note, these are tricky to ship as upon shifting back and forth sometimes the end caps get slightly damaged or concave. If this is the situation just let us know and we will ship out new end caps free of charge.

Weight Installation
Do not touch the weights with your bare hands as you can discolor them. It is best to use gloves or a rag to handle them. These weights may or may not all weigh the same, usually they do not. If they do not, the heaviest weight goes on your right as you face the clock. Out of the two that are left, if there is one lighter weight, this will go on your left as you face the clock. The reason for the inconsistency of the weight specifications is due to factors such as pendulum bob diameter and also the weights function. To hang the weights on is easy, there are three chains with the clock that loop over there sprockets in the movement. Just hang the weight on the side of the chain that has the hook on it, and then stop it from wobbling around.

Mechanical Wall or Mantle Clock Kit WMKIT06

This is a quality 8 day, German made, gong strike, spring driven unit. It has the popular 131-081 18cm Hermle clock movement with the two hammers on the back that strike bells (included).

Here are some measurements you need to know to build your case, but of course the best thing to do is to get the movement first and then build the case afterward. The hand shaft, (shaft that the hands go on) is 27.2mm from the front plate and all the way out. The pendulum length on this unit is measured from the top of the clock movements suspension post and all the way down. This measurement is 18cm and includes the pendulum tip to tip, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension that the leader hangs on.

The kit comes with the movement, gong with mount, the pendulum, hands and a key. This is a complete clock with out the wood case or clock dial, you would use your old dial if you can or get a new dial and drill it out to wind the clock. The clock case would be typically a shelf style and this is to be built on the customers end.

This is a nice compact quality made round unit that runs for 8 days on a wind. Mounting the movement is usually done in the front with the front movement mounts (included).

The special pricing on this kit is only due to the fact that we happen to have overstock on them. As you can see the price is below even the price of a movement alone, and you get everything mentioned.

Mounting Instructions

Thank you for purchasing this clock kit! This is a quality German made Hermle 8 day key wind movement that will withstand the test of time. Here are some simple instructions to get you on your way.

1. Adjust the bell hammers
The mounted two bell strike system will need some final adjusting before mounting the movement. This is because during shipping the hammers may not be aligned for a crisp musical bell tone. The hammer heads need to be away from the bell at rest, about 1/8 inch away. This is adjusted with your fingers just bend the hammer head wire up / down / side / side to get the hammer heads into position at that 1/8 inch away measurement. This will produce a nice bell sound with out thudding, double hitting, or missing the bells completely.

2. Mount the Movement
The Hermle 131 movement series is pretty diversified with its mounting capabilities as it can be mounted in the front or the back depending on your needs. It is best to come up with a mount that allows the back of the movement to be accessed without too much hassle, in case you need to change the suspension spring at some point or if the leader needs to be adjusted.

Front
For a front mounting method you would use the enclosed dog ear looking brackets and put them on the front plates pillar posts, under the hex nut that is holding the front on. Of course you would want to do only one at a time so the movement does not come apart on you, just remove one hex nut, put the bracket on, and then put the hex nut back on. Then do the rest the same way, one at a time. Since this is a front mount you’re going with, the movement will get attached to the front of the clock case with a board between the front of the movement and the clock dial.

Back
This will either go into the back of the clock case or a wood mount that will support the movement but at the same time not get into the way of the pendulum assembly at all. If you choose to mount in a different fashion this is fine just take these long posts right off.

3. Mount the Dial
This movement kit does not include a clock dial, the dial needs to be picked out by the customer and drilled for this movements winding arbors on the customer end. The larger clocks are easy because customers usually want generally the same dial but with some minor differences. With these smaller units there are too many design possibilities to offer an array of pre-punched dials for this movement series. Please review our dial offerings as a separate purchase and or give us a call to discuss the options 800-381-7458

4. Install the Hands
After the dial is mounted it’s time to put the hands on the clock. First comes the hour hand that is installed only in a friction fit. You put the hour hand on and twist and push down toward the dial at the same time. The more down the hour hand is toward the dial, the tighter fit it is as the hour hand post is tapered. You want it on fairly snug but not touching the dial or the minute hand that comes next. The hour hand, the dial, the minute hand should all be parallel with each other and not hitting each other during any part of their rotations.

Hands for these modern German units are designed with a rotate-able center mount in the minute hand. You need to know this as when you set up the clock at first it will not strike exactly on the hour or quarters like it should. To correct this issue it is only needed to take the minute hand off and use needle nose pliers to spin the center mounting bushing independent of the hand itself. You hold the minute hand in one hand, the needle nose pliers in the other while grabbing and spinning this center hand bushing. What this does is align that square hole in the way you need it to mount so the hand is pointing to the correct time when it chimes.

5. Install the Pendulum
The pendulum assembly consists of three components and the Germans measure all of them in one measurement. The measurement is stamped on the back plate of the movement itself in CM. The three components are the suspension spring on the very top, the leader it hangs on, and then the pendulum length all the way down to the very bottom of the pendulum rating nut threads.

When you get the movement the suspension spring will be installed but not always the leader that hangs on it. This you would put on as follows: Take the set screw out of the suspension post as to release this suspension spring and then lower it with your fingers. When the spring is lowered you are able to hook on the leader hook top, and you at the same time need that leader engaged with the crutch that swings back and forth on the back of the movement. So in other words, you will have the leader in the center of the crutch that swings it, as you hook the top to the suspension. With the leader attached to the suspension you can then bring the two part assembly up and back home into its suspension post and put in the set screw again. Now the movement is ready for casing and to be aligned with the chime block as described above. After the movement is cased and ready to go, you just hang the pendulum onto the bottom of the leader and put it in beat.

Please note !
Every pendulum clock needs to be put into beat to operate, if the clock is not put into beat it will run for 5 minutes to 12 hours and then stop every time. In many cases the complaint with a mechanical clock is that it stopped working after it was moved. This is usually from someone moving the clock without taking the pendulum off and this puts the clock out of beat. Out of beat is a term used in clock repair that basically means the clock is going tock-tick tock-tick instead of tick- tock- tick -tock. It is sometimes corrected by putting a matchbook or small piece of wood under one side of the clock case to make the tick and the tock evenly spaced. This can temporarily correct the problem and the clock runs fine. This method however is not as good as correcting the beat and having the clock run when it is truly straight and level.

You would adjust the beat by pushing the top of the pendulum left or right as it hangs in its clock case, just hold a lower portion of the pendulum with your left hand as you push the top of the pendulum left or right with your right hand. You will feel the freedom in the pendulum to move left or right, with some resistance at the sides at the end of your left or right travel. You are changing the beat of the clock when you go beyond this resistance and therefore changing the place of the freedom area. Don’t be afraid to move this pendulum top as there is nothing to break as you go left or right.

The pendulum is responsible for all the timekeeping of the movement. There is a rating nut on the bottom of the pendulum, this gets turned to get the time perfect. Timing a clock takes some time and patience to get perfect as you have to adjust it a few times to get it right. When turning this nut you are either raising or lowing the pendulums round bob at the bottom, and this positioning is what speeds or slows time. If you turn the nut to the right as to raise the bob, time will go faster, the opposite way to slow it down. The pendulum assembly consists of three components and the Germans measure all of them in one measurement. The measurement is stamped on the back plate of the movement itself in CM. The three components are the suspension spring on the very top, the leader it hangs on, and then the pendulum length all the way down to the very bottom of the pendulum rating nut threads.

Kieninger Grandfather Clock Kit GFKIT03

Mechanical Clock KitsTypes of clock kitsMovement optionsGet the kit before making the caseMaking the seat boardPendulum size info

Please view these information tabs to help with determining the proper Mechanical Clock Kits for your clock case.

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available include wall clocks, mantle (shelf) clocks, and floor clocks. Floor models includes the grand daughter, mother, and father series.

Chime types

All of the above, in the past, have been made with every chime type. In other words there are all these various ways to make noise, lets list them. There is the quarterly sounds that play a tune ever quarter hour, this are most common in the songs Westminster only, Or triple chime that includes Westminster St Micheal, or Wittington. As for the other noise makers, we call them strike clocks because they only strike out the hours and usually bong once on the half hour. These include Gong strike (coiled gong on the back or below the movement), Bell strike, or Bim Bam (sounds like its name, on two or three strike rods).

Mechanical clock kits

Mechanical Clock Kit

Wall / Mantle kits

Either weight driven or spring with spring driven most common. The weight driven is less common because of all the weight that is hanging on the wall. If there is no pendulum this means it has a balance wheel instead more like a watch.

Granddaughter / Grandmother clock kits

Granddaughters are usually spring driven with no weights. The grandmothers are usually chain driven with three weights for the chime units or two weights for any other strike styles. Its a shorter clock overall compared to the grandfather clocks.

Grandfather clock kits

Typically cable driven with three weights and triple chimes. This means the weights will hang on cables instead of chains, and plays your choice of three songs. Not always triple chime because some are Westminster only. This is the largest and tallest of the floor clocks.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire

Mechanical clock-kit movement options

The following are the various options for Mechanical clock-kit movements to be utilized in building a clock. We offer predefined kits at clockworks.com, however we cant include them all as it would overwhelming. It maybe possible to alter any aspect in the predefined clock kits that are listed. Please call to let us help with kit modifications or just general assistance to 800 381 7458.


Floor Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only or triple chime. Both of these Mechanical Clock Kit options play a melody every 15 minutes and require a three weight movement. Also there is the bell strike option that will play on the top of the hour whatever hour it is, and once on the half hour.

Pendulum

Options are the length, the bob diameter, and if you would like a wood stick style The Pendulum or a fancy lyre style The Pendulum. The wood stick style is more antique look and the lyre is the contemporary style.

Hammer location

Either on the back for standard depth cases, or for the shallow depth we can do a side hammer unit.

Dial

Either a phase of the moon style, or just the hump top that says Tempus Fugit. Or we can zip off any moon The Dial or TF dial to provide a very nice square metal dial for you with no hump on the top at all. Another option is to use heavy paper stock on a thin board, use spray glue to make it stay.


Wall Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only, Triple chime, Bim Bam, gong or bell. Lots of chime options there, but whatever you would like to listen to out of these we can do usually.

Pendulum

Either the wood stick style or sometimes if its short enough, we can put a brass rod pendulum in. The Mechanical Clock Kit options brass rod pendulum is different than the fancy lyre pendulum as its just a brass rod going straight down with out all the decor.

Hammer Location

Includes the back, or on the side, or even the bottom on the wall clock kits.

Dial

Square dial made of paper stock that gets spray glued to a thin board, or a metal dial. In Arabic or Roman numerals. The dial on a wall clock would be mounted to the wood trim that goes around the dial, not interlocking with the movement. One style you cant get these days are the round dials that do lock into the movement, to have the appearance of the dial just floating in the air with the mounting hidden such as the Vienna regulator style.


Mantle or Shelf Clocks

Chime type

Is all of them really, you can have Westminster, triple chime, gong, bell, or Bim Bam strike for Mechanical clock movement kit options.

Pendulum

Options include metal rod to a decor for the kitchen style clocks are available, or a wood stick The Pendulum if the clock is tall enough. For the shorter mantle units it will be just a round bob that is usually adjustable for time keeping.

Dial

The hardest on the mantle units. To get a The Dial with bezel with glass in convex or flat is ideal, however not always possible. If the situation calls for this type of clock dial, you may want to chase a different clock design to make, it is not often it works out well unfortunately. The shelf clocks are easier as it has a door that closes with glass in the front, rather than the round brass bezel with dial and glass all in one combination.


This concludes the Mechanical Clock Kit options. Best to call and discuss the clock kits with us at 800 381 7458

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Clock kit before building the clock case

It is important to order the clock kit before building the clock case. If the case is built before getting the mechanical clock kit it is possible the kit will not fit.

Why order first before building

It is possible to have a difficultly finding or adapting a clock kit to the current case built. The ideal dial size or other things would wanted but these items may not exist in the size needed for the case. Measurements that need to be correct for the clock kit to fit into the case. Order the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the case. With the clock kit set up on a stand while working on the case it can be measured. The various items on the clock kit such as the pendulum swing and dial size is known exactly.

Not all clocks can be replicated

Not all clocks can be replicated. Many of the antique clocks had clock dials that are in a size that is just not made on the market anymore. The grandfather clocks back in the day had over sized Clock dials with ships on them, cant get those anymore, as well as many other ones. If the dial is found ok, it will still need to be drilled out to wind the clock through the dial. This way it will have a hole to put the key or crank into. The only style clock dial that the winding holes are not required would be on chain driven clocks.

Alternate kit component availability

Clockworks.com offers a large variety of clock movements so this is the most easy thing to get. However when it comes to some components the resources can get slim on specific requests. Clock dials are the hardest part because there are so many shapes sizes and options. Such as round dials, square, hump top with no moon, and moon dials.

Summery

It is wise to get the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the clock case. Best to have the movement kit set up in the work shop to look at, get used too it, and measure what is needed prior to case making.

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Making a Seat Board

A seat board is the mount that the weight driven movement sits upon. The movement sits on this with the cables or chains hanging directly down between the boards.

Typical approximate dimensions

Many of the modern clocks have this about 16 inches wide and is 2 and a half inches deep but this would vary on the clock case dimensions being worked on. In the center of the mounting board is a hole that is 1 inch wide going across the center of the 2 and a half inch deep seat board.

Putting it together

The hole is wide enough for the movement to sit on the board with its chains hanging down in the center. Then the screws with the rectangle washers seat board screws and washers can go up into the movement’s arbors on the bottom. Even easier would be just to mount two, three quarter or 1 inch square boards running parallel, which are 1 inch apart, across the inside of the clock case, this is really all a mounting board needs to consist of. The only thing that has to happen is the movement is in the air with the chains dangling down in between these boards. The boards just can’t be so wide that the pendulum rubs it on the back of the movement.

With the movement mounting in the air as described all that needs to be done is have the chimeblock mounted on the back of the clock case so the hammers can engage with them and make the chime sound. You will hang the weights and pendulum on the movement obvious places, and lock the dial into the movement from the front.

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Grandfather Clock Pendulum Information

The length of the pendulum on German units comes in a few CM options. German units measure the pendulum from the top of the movement to the bottom of the nut threads. The pendulum itself, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

Pendulum length information

To know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options

A Lyre grandfather clock pendulum comes with either a 6 1/2, 8 1/2, or 10 1/2 inch bob diameters. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum . The CM length on the movement will indicate the length of the pendulum from the TOP of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads. This is an approximate length that depends on other factors such as bob diameter and weight of the pendulum . Basically if the CM is 94CM the pendulum itself will be about 35 inches tip to tip off of the clock, and the 114CM option would put this same measurement at approximately 44 inches.

Kieninger Grandfather Clock Kit

Kieninger Clock Kit is known to have the thickest plates in the clock industry.

This cable driven triple chime movement plays 4/4 Westminster, Whittington, or St. Michaels chimes sound each quarter hour and strike the full hour. It has an automatic beat adjustment, over wind protection, removable cable drums, second hand sweep and a automatic night chime shutoff feature so it will not chime between 11PM and 7AM.

Complete with hands, crank, chime block, weights and shells, pulleys, lyre pendulum and 11 x 15 1/2 moon dial with brass overlays and raised numerals It comes with three pendulum length options as well as three pendulum bob disc diameter options.

The case should be at least 4 inches wider than the pendulum bob selected.


Assistance = 800-381-7458

Hermle Clock Kit 248
  • Kieninger MSU
  • Triple Chime
  • Cable Driven
  • 11 x 15.5 Moon Dial
  • Lyre Pendulum
  • Back 12 Rod Strike
  • Movement = 140 x 220mm
  • Serpentine Hands
  • Made in Germany
  • 3-year warranty
Listen to Westminster
Listen to Wittington
Listen to St Micheals

Tall Case Clock Kit GMKIT06

Tall Case Grandfather Clock Kit Kieninger is one of the best German clock movements you can buy. With thick plates and outstanding reliability, these movements last the www of time. A nice clock case to build for this kit would be a taller case where depth is not a concern but with some what of a narrower width. What makes this unit tall is of course the pendulum length, the depth is pretty deep with the longer two inch hand shaft and rear hammers, the width can be narrow as the weights are 47mm wide and has a smaller pendulum bob. All this makes for a nice tall case unit with a variable width to a very narrow possibility. The width of the case would depend on the pendulum bob chosen, there should be 2 inches on each side of the pendulum bob at minimum for the pendulum to swing back and forth. It can have an open or closed waist depending on if you want to see the pendulum through a glass window or not. The pendulum length is 116cm from the top of the movements pendulum post, all the way down to the very bottom of the pendulum rating nut threads. If you were to take the pendulum off the clock and measure it from tip to tip off of the clock it would be around 42 inches. The bob width Options The 'Bob' is the round disc at the bottom of the pendulum, it can be a variety of widths. To select the width of the bob, you need to first measure how wide the waist of the clock is. The bob size selected should have at least two inches on each side to swing back and forth.

Components are installed in this order

1. Chimeblock

Chimeblock Description The chimeblock will mount to the back of the clock case by the included hardware. It has 8 premounted, pretuned chime rods and an overall length of about 27 inches through the block. Chimeblock Installation The back of the clock case will only need the four holes drilled to mount this. The bolts have a flat head screw driver slot on the ends, they go through the washer and install from the back of the case to the inside. The washers keep the bolts from going through the wood back and they thread right into the chimeblock. Sometimes it is good to have a spacer block mounted on the inside of the clock case where the chimeblock will mount. Keep in mind that the chime blocks positioning only has to be approximate as the movements hammers are meant to be bent into final position. What this means is it does not have to be dead on, just pretty close to where the movements hammers will be. It should be positioned so the tops of the hammer heads are about 1/2 or 1 inch down from the block that the chimerods come out of. The final adjustment will come later when you bend the hammer wires as to make the head about 1/8 away from the chime rod. This spacing between the head and the rod is so it will not thud or double hit. If you just do each hammer so it sounds good down the line, you will have a nice song at the end.  

2. Movement

Movement Description The chain driven Westminster movement will run 8 days on a single wind up. It comes factory oiled and ready for installation. It includes its chains, mounting screws and washers, the leader, the suspension spring, hand nut and moon dial gear. It has two square shaped outer plates made of brass with the puzzle of gearing between them, and then it has the hammers on the back, 4 on one side for the chime and 4 on the other for the strike. Movement Installation The movement will need a seat board to mount on. A seat board can consist of only two parallel board strips that are approximately 2 x 2 square. These two boards run along the bottom of the hood of the case, spaced about 1 inch apart. The front plate of the movement sits on one board while the back plate sits on the other. The chains drop down between the boards to suspend the movement in the air where everything else will dangle from it. The movement is secured from underneath with the included two screws and rectangle washers. The washers are rectangle as it will clamp each seat board while the screw goes up to the movements bottom pillar post's threaded hole.  

3. Dial

Dial Description Includes a Tempus Fugit style dial that is 11 x 14 7/8. The silver and brass tone dial has raised numerals. The Tempus Fugit dial's hump top can be easily zipped off for a 11 x 11 dial instead, if needed. Dial Installation The first thing to do is install the selector switch to turn off the chimes to the clock. Find the small steel arm that is about 1 1/2 inches in length with a set screw. This will go on the arm coming out of the clock movements right hand side. That is to say, your right as you face the front of the clock movement there is an arm sticking out the movement. The selector arm gets put on by sliding over that larger arm and secured with the set screw. It may or may not already be mounted on the movement, but if it is not, it only needs to be able to come through the slot at 3 o'clock. This will enable the customer to change the chime to silent. Mounting the dial is easy as it only has to be attached to the wood case. The usual way this is done is drilling four pilot holes in the corners of the dial and use some small brass screws to secure it.  

4. Hour and Minute Hands

Hands Description Black Serpentine style hour and minute hands sized for the dial diameter. Hand Installation The hour hand has a round hole and is only a friction fit onto the post. It will be able to move forward or backward to adjust the time. The minute hand has a 2mm square hole in the rotatable mounting bushing. The minute hand is secured with the included minute hand nut. If the clock ends up chiming at other times than the quarters, do the following. Take the minute hand off of the clock, this is the longer of the two hands. With this minute hand off of the clock, turn it upside down, you will see it has a square hole where it attaches to the clock. Well this square hole is in a bushing that will rotate WITHIN the minute hand itself. So just use needle nose pliers to turn this bushing so the square in the bushing rotates. Then put the hand back on the clock and see if it is pointing to the correct place where it chimed. Then set to time.  

5. Pendulum

Pendulum Description The wood stick pendulum will come unstained so it can be stained like the case on the customers end. It is a simple design that is good for the rustic antique style look. Pendulum Installation The wood stick style pendulum will include the bob included separate in the packaging. The bob will need to be mounted to the bottom of the sticks rating nut threads, with the nut on the threads to secure it. This is called the rating assembly and it holds the pendulum bob on and is used to adjust the time keeping of the clock. If you turn the nut at the bottom as to raise the pendulum bob a little, this will speed up time. Reverse for slowing of time. After the movement is in, its only a matter of hanging the pendulum on its leader. The term leader is that pendulum hanger on the back of the movement that swings back and forth. Be gentle with the pendulum and leader, no violent moves, just hang it on there and then stop the pendulum from wobbling around.  

6. Weights

Weights Description The kit includes three polished brass tone weights that are 47mm in diameter. The weights are shipped complete with fillers already assembled. Please note, these are tricky to ship as upon shifting back and forth sometimes the end caps get slightly damaged or concave. If this is the situation just let us know and we will ship out new end caps free of charge. Weight Installation Do not touch the weights with your bare hands as you can discolor them. It is best to use gloves or a rag to handle them. These weights may or may not all weigh the same, usually they do not. If they do not, the heaviest weight goes on your right as you face the clock. Out of the two that are left, if there is one lighter weight, this will go on your left as you face the clock. The reason for the inconsistency of the weight specifications is due to factors such as pendulum bob diameter and also the weights function. To hang the weights on is easy, there are three chains with the clock that loop over there sprockets in the movement. Just hang the weight on the side of the chain that has the hook on it, and then stop it from wobbling around.

GrandMother Clock Kit GMKIT04

Chain Driven, Westminster Clock Kit
This quality grandmother clock kit has a Westminster chime movement that it progressively at the quarter hours. Then it will strike out the hourly count when its done with the chime. It includes a phase of the moon dial, and a chime silence switch.

This is a nice clock kit size that will work with Grandmother or Grandfather clock cases. The clock case would need to be able to except the movements minimum space requirements as indicated on the picture.

The Pendulum Length Options
The length of the pendulum comes in a few options. The Germans measure the pendulum length from the top of the movement and all the way down to the bottom of the pendulums rating nut threads. So this measurement is the pendulum itself from tip to tip off of the clock, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

If you want to know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options
The 'Bob' is the round disc at the bottom of the pendulum, it can be a variety of widths. To select the width of the bob, you need to first measure how wide the waist of the clock is. The bob size selected should have at least two inches on each side to swing back and forth.



Components are installed in this order

1. Chimeblock

Chimeblock Description
The chimeblock will mount to the back of the clock case by the included hardware. It has 8 premounted, pretuned chime rods and an overall length of about 27 inches through the block.

Chimeblock Installation
The back of the clock case will only need the four holes drilled to mount this. The bolts have a flat head screw driver slot on the ends, they go through the washer and install from the back of the case to the inside. The washers keep the bolts from going through the wood back and they thread right into the chimeblock. Sometimes it is good to have a spacer block mounted on the inside of the clock case where the chimeblock will mount. Keep in mind that the chime blocks positioning only has to be approximate as the movements hammers are meant to be bent into final position. What this means is it does not have to be dead on, just pretty close to where the movements hammers will be. It should be positioned so the tops of the hammer heads are about 1/2 or 1 inch down from the block that the chimerods come out of. The final adjustment will come later when you bend the hammer wires as to make the head about 1/8 away from the chime rod. This spacing between the head and the rod is so it will not thud or double hit. If you just do each hammer so it sounds good down the line, you will have a nice song at the end.


2. Movement

Movement Description
The chain driven Westminster movement will run 8 days on a single wind up. It comes factory oiled and ready for installation. It includes its chains, mounting screws and washers, the leader, the suspension spring, hand nut and moon dial gear. It has two square shaped outer plates made of brass with the puzzle of gearing between them, and then it has the hammers on the back, 4 on one side for the chime and 4 on the other for the strike.

Movement Installation
The movement will need a seat board to mount on. A seat board can consist of only two parallel board strips that are approximately 2 x 2 square. These two boards run along the bottom of the hood of the case, spaced about 1 inch apart. The front plate of the movement sits on one board while the back plate sits on the other. The chains drop down between the boards to suspend the movement in the air where everything else will dangle from it. The movement is secured from underneath with the included two screws and rectangle washers. The washers are rectangle as it will clamp each seat board while the screw goes up to the movements bottom pillar post's threaded hole.


3. Moon Dial

Dial Description
Includes a standard sized 11 x 15 1/2 dial that can be used in a grandmother or grandfather sized case. The silver and brass tone dial has raised numerals. It has a moving moon phase function that works with the included moon drive gear.

Dial Installation
1. The Moon Gear.
The first thing is to mount the moon gear to the movement. It will be a single loose gear with a big hole in the center, included with your shipment. Note this gear has a small set screw on the side of it, sometimes two of them. This gear will go over the post that the clocks hour hand will go, and then tightened via the set screw. It may take a couple of tries to get the height correct on this post. What it has to do is mesh with the gearing on the back of the clock dial only.
2. The Selector Switch.
Next find the small steel arm that is about 1 1/2 inches in length with a set screw. This will go on the arm coming out of the clock movements right hand side. That is to say, your right as you face the front of the clock movement there is an arm sticking out the movement. The selector arm gets put on by sliding over that larger arm and secured with the set screw. It may or may not already be mounted on the movement, but if it is not, it only needs to be able to come through the slot at 3 o'clock. This will enable the customer to change the chime to silent.
3. The Moon Dial.
Mounting the dial is easy as it has four posts on the back that lock into the movement. Do not touch the dial with your bare hands as you can discolor it. It is best to use gloves or a rag to handle it. Line up the clocks hand shaft to the hole in the center of the dial and then line up the posts with the holes in the movement. At this point the dial is on the clock but it's not secured. There are two ways to secure the dial, one style has locking arms on the back of the front plate of the movement that slide over the end of the dial post to lock it tight. This is if both the dial and the movement are made this way. The other way this is done, there maybe holes in the ends of the dial post feet where an included tapered pin will go through the hole after it's on the movement. Sometimes the dial will be made with the holes in the end of the posts, and sometimes it will just get locked into the movement with the arms.


4. Hour and Minute Hands

Hands Description
Black Serpentine style hour and minute hands sized for the dial diameter.

Hand Installation
The hour hand has a round hole and is only a friction fit onto the post. It will be able to move forward or backward to adjust the time. The minute hand has a 2mm square hole in the rotatable mounting bushing. The minute hand is secured with the included minute hand nut. If the clock ends up chiming at other times than the quarters, do the following. Take the minute hand off of the clock, this is the longer of the two hands. With this minute hand off of the clock, turn it upside down, you will see it has a square hole where it attaches to the clock. Well this square hole is in a bushing that will rotate WITHIN the minute hand itself. So just use needle nose pliers to turn this bushing so the square in the bushing rotates. Then put the hand back on the clock and see if it is pointing to the correct place where it chimed. Then set to time.


5. Pendulum

Pendulum Description
The wood stick pendulum will come unstained so it can be stained like the case on the customers end. It is a simple design that is good for the rustic antique style look.

Pendulum Installation
The wood stick style pendulum will include the bob included separate in the packaging. The bob will need to be mounted to the bottom of the sticks rating nut threads, with the nut on the threads to secure it. This is called the rating assembly and it holds the pendulum bob on and is used to adjust the time keeping of the clock. If you turn the nut at the bottom as to raise the pendulum bob a little, this will speed up time. Reverse for slowing of time.

After the movement is in, its only a matter of hanging the pendulum on its leader. The term leader is that pendulum hanger on the back of the movement that swings back and forth. Be gentle with the pendulum and leader, no violent moves, just hang it on there and then stop the pendulum from wobbling around.


6. Weights

Weights Description
The kit includes three polished brass tone weights that are 47mm in diameter. The weights are shipped complete with fillers already assembled. Please note, these are tricky to ship as upon shifting back and forth sometimes the end caps get slightly damaged or concave. If this is the situation just let us know and we will ship out new end caps free of charge.

Weight Installation
Do not touch the weights with your bare hands as you can discolor them. It is best to use gloves or a rag to handle them. These weights may or may not all weigh the same, usually they do not. If they do not, the heaviest weight goes on your right as you face the clock. Out of the two that are left, if there is one lighter weight, this will go on your left as you face the clock. The reason for the inconsistency of the weight specifications is due to factors such as pendulum bob diameter and also the weights function. To hang the weights on is easy, there are three chains with the clock that loop over there sprockets in the movement. Just hang the weight on the side of the chain that has the hook on it, and then stop it from wobbling around.

Triple-Chime Grandfather Clock Kit GFKIT101

Mechanical Clock KitsTypes of clock kitsMovement optionsGet the kit before making the caseMaking the seat boardPendulum size info

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Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available

Mechanical Clock Kit Styles Available include wall clocks, mantle (shelf) clocks, and floor clocks. Floor models includes the grand daughter, mother, and father series.

Chime types

All of the above, in the past, have been made with every chime type. In other words there are all these various ways to make noise, lets list them. There is the quarterly sounds that play a tune ever quarter hour, this are most common in the songs Westminster only, Or triple chime that includes Westminster St Micheal, or Wittington. As for the other noise makers, we call them strike clocks because they only strike out the hours and usually bong once on the half hour. These include Gong strike (coiled gong on the back or below the movement), Bell strike, or Bim Bam (sounds like its name, on two or three strike rods).

Mechanical clock kits

Mechanical Clock Kit

Wall / Mantle kits

Either weight driven or spring with spring driven most common. The weight driven is less common because of all the weight that is hanging on the wall. If there is no pendulum this means it has a balance wheel instead more like a watch.

Granddaughter / Grandmother clock kits

Granddaughters are usually spring driven with no weights. The grandmothers are usually chain driven with three weights for the chime units or two weights for any other strike styles. Its a shorter clock overall compared to the grandfather clocks.

Grandfather clock kits

Typically cable driven with three weights and triple chimes. This means the weights will hang on cables instead of chains, and plays your choice of three songs. Not always triple chime because some are Westminster only. This is the largest and tallest of the floor clocks.

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Mechanical clock-kit movement options

The following are the various options for Mechanical clock-kit movements to be utilized in building a clock. We offer predefined kits at clockworks.com, however we cant include them all as it would overwhelming. It maybe possible to alter any aspect in the predefined clock kits that are listed. Please call to let us help with kit modifications or just general assistance to 800 381 7458.


Floor Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only or triple chime. Both of these Mechanical Clock Kit options play a melody every 15 minutes and require a three weight movement. Also there is the bell strike option that will play on the top of the hour whatever hour it is, and once on the half hour.

Pendulum

Options are the length, the bob diameter, and if you would like a wood stick style The Pendulum or a fancy lyre style The Pendulum. The wood stick style is more antique look and the lyre is the contemporary style.

Hammer location

Either on the back for standard depth cases, or for the shallow depth we can do a side hammer unit.

Dial

Either a phase of the moon style, or just the hump top that says Tempus Fugit. Or we can zip off any moon The Dial or TF dial to provide a very nice square metal dial for you with no hump on the top at all. Another option is to use heavy paper stock on a thin board, use spray glue to make it stay.


Wall Clocks

Chime type

Either Westminster only, Triple chime, Bim Bam, gong or bell. Lots of chime options there, but whatever you would like to listen to out of these we can do usually.

Pendulum

Either the wood stick style or sometimes if its short enough, we can put a brass rod pendulum in. The Mechanical Clock Kit options brass rod pendulum is different than the fancy lyre pendulum as its just a brass rod going straight down with out all the decor.

Hammer Location

Includes the back, or on the side, or even the bottom on the wall clock kits.

Dial

Square dial made of paper stock that gets spray glued to a thin board, or a metal dial. In Arabic or Roman numerals. The dial on a wall clock would be mounted to the wood trim that goes around the dial, not interlocking with the movement. One style you cant get these days are the round dials that do lock into the movement, to have the appearance of the dial just floating in the air with the mounting hidden such as the Vienna regulator style.


Mantle or Shelf Clocks

Chime type

Is all of them really, you can have Westminster, triple chime, gong, bell, or Bim Bam strike for Mechanical clock movement kit options.

Pendulum

Options include metal rod to a decor for the kitchen style clocks are available, or a wood stick The Pendulum if the clock is tall enough. For the shorter mantle units it will be just a round bob that is usually adjustable for time keeping.

Dial

The hardest on the mantle units. To get a The Dial with bezel with glass in convex or flat is ideal, however not always possible. If the situation calls for this type of clock dial, you may want to chase a different clock design to make, it is not often it works out well unfortunately. The shelf clocks are easier as it has a door that closes with glass in the front, rather than the round brass bezel with dial and glass all in one combination.


This concludes the Mechanical Clock Kit options. Best to call and discuss the clock kits with us at 800 381 7458

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Clock kit before building the clock case

It is important to order the clock kit before building the clock case. If the case is built before getting the mechanical clock kit it is possible the kit will not fit.

Why order first before building

It is possible to have a difficultly finding or adapting a clock kit to the current case built. The ideal dial size or other things would wanted but these items may not exist in the size needed for the case. Measurements that need to be correct for the clock kit to fit into the case. Order the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the case. With the clock kit set up on a stand while working on the case it can be measured. The various items on the clock kit such as the pendulum swing and dial size is known exactly.

Not all clocks can be replicated

Not all clocks can be replicated. Many of the antique clocks had clock dials that are in a size that is just not made on the market anymore. The grandfather clocks back in the day had over sized Clock dials with ships on them, cant get those anymore, as well as many other ones. If the dial is found ok, it will still need to be drilled out to wind the clock through the dial. This way it will have a hole to put the key or crank into. The only style clock dial that the winding holes are not required would be on chain driven clocks.

Alternate kit component availability

Clockworks.com offers a large variety of clock movements so this is the most easy thing to get. However when it comes to some components the resources can get slim on specific requests. Clock dials are the hardest part because there are so many shapes sizes and options. Such as round dials, square, hump top with no moon, and moon dials.

Summery

It is wise to get the Mechanical Clock Kit before building the clock case. Best to have the movement kit set up in the work shop to look at, get used too it, and measure what is needed prior to case making.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire

Making a Seat Board

A seat board is the mount that the weight driven movement sits upon. The movement sits on this with the cables or chains hanging directly down between the boards.

Typical approximate dimensions

Many of the modern clocks have this about 16 inches wide and is 2 and a half inches deep but this would vary on the clock case dimensions being worked on. In the center of the mounting board is a hole that is 1 inch wide going across the center of the 2 and a half inch deep seat board.

Putting it together

The hole is wide enough for the movement to sit on the board with its chains hanging down in the center. Then the screws with the rectangle washers seat board screws and washers can go up into the movement’s arbors on the bottom. Even easier would be just to mount two, three quarter or 1 inch square boards running parallel, which are 1 inch apart, across the inside of the clock case, this is really all a mounting board needs to consist of. The only thing that has to happen is the movement is in the air with the chains dangling down in between these boards. The boards just can’t be so wide that the pendulum rubs it on the back of the movement.

With the movement mounting in the air as described all that needs to be done is have the chimeblock mounted on the back of the clock case so the hammers can engage with them and make the chime sound. You will hang the weights and pendulum on the movement obvious places, and lock the dial into the movement from the front.

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Grandfather Clock Pendulum Information

The length of the pendulum on German units comes in a few CM options. German units measure the pendulum from the top of the movement to the bottom of the nut threads. The pendulum itself, the leader it hangs on, and the suspension that the leader hangs on. All three components in centimeters make up that CM length in the drop down menu.

Pendulum length information

To know how long the actual pendulum is, subtract 15CM from the options with the pendulum length. This will exclude the leader and suspension, and be the actual pendulum length from tip to tip off of the clock. This length can vary as if a larger pendulum bob is selected, the actual length of the pendulum gets longer. Why the CM length matters at all is because if the pendulum length is not near the CM length of the movement, the clock will not keep time. So the gearing in the movement and the pendulum length works together to keep time around the specified CM length.

The bob width Options

A Lyre grandfather clock pendulum comes with either a 6 1/2, 8 1/2, or 10 1/2 inch bob diameters. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum . The CM length on the movement will indicate the length of the pendulum from the TOP of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads. This is an approximate length that depends on other factors such as bob diameter and weight of the pendulum . Basically if the CM is 94CM the pendulum itself will be about 35 inches tip to tip off of the clock, and the 114CM option would put this same measurement at approximately 44 inches.

Triple-Chime grandfather description

Grandfather Clock Kit is Outfitted a Decorative Presidential moving moon dial that is 11 x 15 1/2 with matching pendulum with a 10 1/2 bob. The 'Bob' is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum. Includes polished weights, Lyre pendulum, moon dial, gong assembly, hands and hardware. This is everything you need for a clock except for the clock case.


Assistance = 800-381-7458

Hermle Clock Kit 248
  • Hermle 1161-853
  • Triple Chime
  • Cable Driven
  • 11 x 15.5 Moon Dial
  • Lyre Pendulum
  • Back 12 Rod Strike
  • Movement = 140 x 220mm
  • Serpentine Hands
  • Made in Germany
  • 3-year warranty
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Mechanical Wall Clock Kit WMKIT24

  • Westminster
  • Spring Driven
  • 7 inch overall dial diameter
  • Stick pendulum 8' tip to tip
  • Bottom 5 rod chimeblock
  • German made movement
  • 2-year warranty
  • $349
Westminster Spring Driven Kit This quality German made spring driven clock movement will run 8 days on a single wind up. The movement has 5 hammers below that will play the progressive westminster melody on the quarter hours. The kit comes with the movement, chime block and rods, the dial, hands and a key. This is a complete clock with out the wood case!

Components are installed in this order

1. Chimeblock

Chimeblock Description The chimeblock will mount to the bottom of the clock case by the included hardware. It has 5 premounted, pretuned chime rods and an overall length of about 7 1/2 inches through the block. Chimeblock Installation The bottom of the clock case will only need the two holes drilled to mount this. The bolts have a flat head screw driver slot on the ends, they go through the washer and install from the bottom of the case to the inside. The washers keep the bolts from going through the wood back and they thread right into the chimeblock. Sometimes it is good to have a spacer block mounted on the inside of the clock case where the chimeblock will mount. Keep in mind that the chime blocks positioning only has to be approximate as the movements hammers are meant to be bent into final position. What this means is it does not have to be dead on, just pretty close to where the movements hammers will be. It should be positioned so the tops of the hammer heads are about 1/8 or 1/2 inch down from the block that the chimerods come out of. The final adjustment will come later when you bend the hammer wires as to make the head about 1/8 away from the chime rod. This spacing between the head and the rod is so it will not thud or double hit. If you just do each hammer so it sounds good down the line, you will have a nice song at the end.  

2. Movement

Movement Description Plays 4/4 Westminster chimes sound each quarter hour and strike the full hour. It comes factory oiled and ready for installation. It includes the leader, the suspension spring, and the hand nut. It has two square shaped outer plates made of brass with the puzzle of gearing between them, and then it has the 5 hammers on the bottom for the westminster chime. This is an 8 day key wound movement with 100 mm plate width and height, the Hand shaft is 33.2 from the front plate and all the way out. Movement Installation This is a front mount movement, however this can change very easily if your wanting a custom design. The mounts can go on the back of the movement instead, if the set up allows for the pendulum to still swing. The mounts are a dog ear shape with hole in them, you only need some small phillips head wood screws to install the movement. This movement is sold as a front mount intention, the case will need a 4 or 5 inch hole drilled in a wood front of the case. The movement screws to the back side of the board with the hole in it, and the dial gets mounted on the front of it.  

3. Dial

Dial Description This is a light weight metal dial with roman numerals. The width of the dial is 6 inch and has a 5 inch time track. The time track is the ring just outside the numerals. This white roman dial has a golt trim ring. Dial Installation This movement is sold as a front mount intention, the case will need a 4 or 5 inch hole drilled in a wood front of the case. The movement screws to the back side of the board with the hole in it, and the dial gets mounted on the front of it.  

4. Hour and Minute Hands

Hands Description Black Serpentine style hour and minute hands sized for the dial diameter. Hand Installation The hour hand has a round hole and is only a friction fit onto the post. It will be able to move forward or backward to adjust the time. The minute hand has a 2mm square hole in the rotatable mounting bushing. The minute hand is secured with the included minute hand nut. If the clock ends up chiming at other times than the quarters, do the following. Take the minute hand off of the clock, this is the longer of the two hands. With this minute hand off of the clock, turn it upside down, you will see it has a square hole where it attaches to the clock. Well this square hole is in a bushing that will rotate WITHIN the minute hand itself. So just use needle nose pliers to turn this bushing so the square in the bushing rotates. Then put the hand back on the clock and see if it is pointing to the correct place where it chimed. Then set to time.  

6. Pendulum

Pendulum Description Grid R and A style pendulum with a hook top. At the bottom of the pendulum is the rating assembly this is only a nut and threads that hold the pendulum bob on. It is called the rating nut and threads as it is used to adjust the time keeping of the clock. If you turn the nut at the bottom as to raise the pendulum bob a little, this will speed up time. Reverse for slowing of time. Pendulum Installation Do not touch the pendulum with your bare hands as you can discolor it. It is best to use gloves or a rag to handle it. After the movement is in, its only a matter of hanging the pendulum on its leader. The term leader is that pendulum hanger on the back of the movement that swings back and forth. Be gentle with the pendulum and leader, no violent moves, just hang it on there and then stop the pendulum from wobbling around.

Jauch PL61 Westminster Clock Movement Kit

Jauch PL61 (old unit marked PL61 Westminster)
  • Jauch clock movement conversion
  • Hands, shims, top hook, screws included
  • Chime weight filler also included
Every Jauch clock movement is discontinued as the company is out of business. What this means is you would be ordering a new movement made by Hermle instead. The Hermle clock movements are of equivalent quality and size and have the same functions. These conversion kits are only good for the three weight Jauch floor clock movements. If your Jauch movement is anything other than this it will have to be repaired instead, please email us to set up a repair to [email protected] . If you do have the three weight Jauch movement then your on the correct path to get your clock running again with a brand new Hermle movement conversion kit as described. The following modifications are usually required:
  • The dial must be attached to the case rather than the movement. There is a 50/50 chance really, sometimes the dial is attached to the case and sometimes it is attached to the movement with dial feet. If it's attached to the movement then you will need to unscrew or chop off the dial feet and attach it to the wood case instead.
  • The replacement for the Jauch clock movement would have to be shimmed higher (Included)
  • New lead weight would be installed into the existing right hand chime weight shell. (Included)
  • The top hook on the pendulum will have to get swapped (Included)
  • The pendulum may or may not have to get shortened. If the clock is too slow, even with the bob all the way up, the pendulum stick must get cut 1 1/2 inches shorter.
  • If you need assistance on replacing the Jauch clock movement you can call 800-381-7458
  • If this does not work out for you and you have the original packaging so it can be resold as new, you can return this kit .
The Hermle clock movement is a Westminster Chime unit with 8 hammers on the back. This high quality German movement comes pre oiled and includes its chains, leader, suspension spring and hand nut. Removal of this movement is easy and we provide instructions for the installation. This movement is in stock and can ship today. We are full time clock makers and retailers both, so if you need any assistance with install we can help. Replacing a movement is less costly than a overhaul. These movements last 25 years before needing an over haul, but since its still being made at a fair price it is so much better just to replace. The clock will be problem free right away instead of months, last longer than a overhaul and its prelubricated.