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New Clock Movement Benefits
Getting the movement worked on
Clocks need to have fresh oil after 10 years or so. Then, after 20 or 30 years, a full break down of the movement is necessary. This is all well and good and can be done with the old movement. The movement will run for another 5 or 15 years with no issues but then it will be time to do it again. So obviously this is a new clock movement benefit.
The Unlisted Urgos Clock Movement
Only the three weight clock movements are being produced in current times. Not every one of them either because some are now discontinued. Assuming we are working with a three weight movement in this section and not a two weight unit or spring driven. The two weight units are covered in another section and we call them the UW7/ series. Same with the spring driven UW6/ series these are no longer made but we have a section covering what can be done with Hermle instead.
Urgos movement number explanation
Upon every production run the movement number changes. The factory will produce the movement for years and then take a break on that series. When they start cranking them out again they call it a different name. So an old movement with a certain name may have the same movement available new but called something different. What used to be called a 03086 is now called a 03096 and so forth. This could be done a few times over in the time span of 40 or 50 years. So what is often required is converting the old number to the new number. However not all numbers are on the list or listed for sale. This does not mean we do not have it to offer, it only means we would need to figure out what one it is in modern times.
Urgos movement numbers simplified
The movement numbers usually start with a UW before the number. This UW can be ignored for replacing the movement or converting the number. UW only means it is made by the Urgos clock company. The letters after the number can be ignored also, such as in the movement number UW32/1A. The A can be ignored along with the UW as discussed, so we are only looking at 32/1 only. The three weight floor clock series only have the numbers starting with either 32 or 03 or 66. Example of starting with a 32 would be 32/1 and a 03 such as the 03101, the 66 as in 66020. If the movement starts with a 32 it is a square unit and if it starts with 03 or 66 it is a larger rectangle on instead.
Urgos movement number unlisted
If your movement numbers match with the numbers we list just find the number and click it. The link will bring up the new movement to view and order the product. If your movement number is not on the above list we need to figure out what the new number is and if its still made. What the numbers used to be may not be the same on the new units. Although the numbers may not match it will still be the same clock movement.
Urgos clock number conversions
Convert your three weight Urgos clock movement to the new number please use the below chart. This will match what the movement used to be called to what it is now called. With the new number it can then be found on the list of offered movements by Clockworks.com. Sometimes with three production runs it is required to convert the number twice. For example maybe the clock says UW32/1A you would drop the UW and the A at the end and just look at 32/1 only. The 32/1 is replaced with 32001 in one conversion and then there is still one more. On another production run they changed the number for this again and now it is called a 32319. So in the end the 32/1 and the 32001 and the 32319 are all the same unit with different names for the various production runs.
Urgos numbers with the / slash
If you have a / in the number, it’s definitely the old system and therefore an older movement which has lived its life as its over 40 years old. If it does not have a / it still may be the old numbering system as well. Either way, convert old number to the new and order the new unit. If the old numbers have a / in it, replace that / with one or sometimes two zeros. Just think of the / as zeros in other words. EXAMPLE: 32/1 is the same as 32001 and is the same as the converted number 32319. For assistance if needed please contact Clockworks.com 800-381-7458 if you get VM it only means the phones are jammed up and we will call you right back. Our email address is [email protected] if you choose to do that instead.
Urgos UW7/ series clock movement
Urgos UW7/ series clock movement is a two weight small floor clock movement. These units were very popular in the 1960s and 1970's. That alone puts it over the life expectancy of being a 25 year movement by far and needs to be replaced. If the movement is giving issues on top of this fact it is definitely time to either overhaul the old or get a new one if possible.
Repair or replace the Urgos UW7/ series?
The choice is obvious to get the new one for cost savings and life expectancy if possible and easy. Even when the movement is not made it is best to use a conversion to a different maker instead of having the repair work done. This is only if it makes sense to do so and with this particular series it does. The two weight Hermle units are so close and there is not much involved with the conversion aspect on these.
The Hermle clock movement alternative
Urgos UW7/ series clock movement is no longer made and not available by Clockworks.com. However these can often be converted to an equivalent quality new German clock movement. The movement numbers off of the old unit can be emailed to us at [email protected] with a picture from the back side.
Measurements needed from the customer
It would help if you provide the length of the pendulum from tip to tip when its off of the clock. Also the length of the hands shaft from the front plate of the movement itself and all the way out to the end of the minute hand nut threads. This last measurement requires the dial to come off for this to be measured. This measurement is from the front plate of the movement and all the way out. A movement plate is the two plates with all the gears in between. There is a front plate with its hand shaft sticking out and a back plate.
Urgos UW7/ Conversion requirements
Instructions for the new movement will be emailed to the customer upon checkout. However these are the specific things needed for the conversion aspect alone. These are the things that are in addition to what would be needed when going from same to same.
Chime block location
The chime block may have to be moved from one place to another. This is because the hammer location on the Hermle clock movement may not be in the same location. Such as the bim bam units made by Urgos sometimes had the hammer location on the back of the movement. The Hermle replacement would have the hammers on the side for the bim bam instead of the back. This is an example of the chime block needed to be moved from mounting in the back to being mounted on the side instead.
Urgos UW7/ Pendulum top swap
The top hook of the current clock pendulum will not hook up to the new movement the way it used to. The pendulum is fine however the top only would need to be changed for it to hook on to the new one. They do not cost much and of course is available at clockworks.com. The new top hook that is needed is available to purchase.
The rest of the clock movement parts fit fine
The current weights are fine for the new movement and so is the clock hands. There is nothing left to purchase besides the movement and the pendulum top hook. The new movement will comes with the chains and is already oiled.
Urgos UW6/ series clock movement
Urgos UW6/ series clock movement was mass produced in the 1950's through the 1970's. It was a popular unit for shelf clocks and wall clock applications because it was compact and ran a short pendulum. The spring driven Westminster movement runs for eight days on a single wind up. It chimes either Westminster only or three songs with triple chime.
Urgos UW6/ series is no longer made
These are no longer made but is still the best choice to go with a new clock movement if it is possible. Just having this movement alone puts the age 40 years old or more so it is time to replace even if it works fine. So if its giving issues on top of this fact it is just time to do something with it either way.
Hermle clock movement alternative
clockworks.com has a Hermle unit that is of equal quality to replace the Urgoes UW6/ series. The replacement movement would not be plug and play and there are some things required to act on. In the end if its able and willing to be done the clock will have a new movement of equal quality installed. The movement will run another 30 years with out much complaint and is not hard to put in. Instead of the typical same with same movement swap the extra steps required are listed below.
The Urgos conversion steps
The typical same with same movement swap instructions will be emailed upon purchase. These are the steps required for the conversion aspect alone. As it is going from an Urgos movement to a Hermle movement there are some additional concerns to address.
Clock dial incompatibility
The locations of the winding arbors on the Hermle movement are in slightly different than the Urgos UW6/ series. The holes in the clock dial face will not line up with this new movement to wind the clock. The customer could cover the old winding holes somehow and drill new ones to wind the clock. A sticky back metal or cardboard round disk does the trick or another creative idea. It only needs something to cover the old holes and drill new ones into that same disk.
Potential dial solution
Clockworks.com does have them to offer in gold and about 4 inches round with sticky backside. Even better than this is to get a new dial for your new movement if it is possible. There are so many dial shapes and sizes it is not a guarantee the same looking dial is available new. Please email Clockworks.com a picture of the old dial with some basic measurements. Clockworks.com will see if we have the same looking dial that can be drilled out with new holes to wind the clock.
Possible clock chime block work
Some applications of this conversion requires some handling of the chime block and rods. It is not common but sometimes it is needed to reverse the direction of the chime lock inside the clock case. The reason for this is because the new unit may or may not have the hammer heads on the opposite side. In order to avoid purchasing a new chime block the old one can be reversed in direction.
Working with the chime block
Not only would need need to reverse direction but also reverse the order of the rods within the block itself. The shortest rod would need to be where the longest rod was and continue down the line like this. As stated this is not so commonly needed. The reversal is only done to avoid the purchase of a new chime block and save cost. If a new one was purchased it would have the rods in the correct order and would only be required to put it in the new direction.
UW6/ Series Pendulum hook up
The pendulum may not hook up to the pendulum leader on the new clock movement. The leader is the part that the pendulum hangs onto on the back of the movement. The top hook of the pendulum may or may not fit the new movements leader. If becomes an issue clockworks.com offers an alternate top hook for your pendulum if its the wood stick style. If the clock takes a brass rod pendulum instead it maybe required to get a new pendulum with your new movement.
The rest is easy
The old key will fit the new movement the same as it did before. Clock hands are good to use with the new movement just as they did also. The pendulum length will be close enough to be able to regulate the time keeping.
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UW32328 Urgos Clock Movement
UW32328 Urgos clock movement plays Westminster chime every quarter hour. At the top of the hour it will play the full chime followed by striking out whatever hour it is. This is a 93cm movement with a 65mm hand shaft length. If the old unit says 32328, 32/13 or 32101 this is the proper new Urgos clock movement everything will be the same as it was. The UW32328 clock movement is a square unit that is chain driven with three weights. It runs for 8 days on a single wind up of the clock weights.
Mechanical movement replacement
Because this is the same clock movement only new, all the old components will fit the new unit just as they did on the old. Components such as the dial, weights, pendulum, hands, and chime block will not need to be replaced to have a new movement.
Sold as only the new movement
Offering a brand new clock movement alone and does not come with the other components. The dial, weights, pendulum, chime block, hands, maybe available as a separate purchase. This high quality German movement comes oiled and includes its leader, suspension spring and hand nut.
Removal instructions to get the old unit out are contained in the installation instructions also. The movement swap is not difficult, changing a car tire is along the same level of intensity. After the hands and the dial are out of the way the movement will be fully exposed. The movement can come out by removing the two screws that mount it from the underside.
Installation is reverse of removal with some extra set up things to be done. Instructions will cover these few things to be done, and we are here if questions come up for the operation or installation. We are full time clock makers and retailers both, so if you need any assistance with install we can help.
A new clock movement is best
Mechanical movement replacement is less costly than a restoration of an old unit. The clock will be problem free right away instead of months, last longer than a repair ever would. It is just the best choice all around for a trouble free mechanical clock. Urgos had gone out of business a while back and the Hermle purchased the company and is still making the same movements with the same machines.