A new movement will last much longer than a repair ever would.
It would usually cost less and be up and running in a very short time whereas a repair can take months.
So the new movement would be faster, cost less, and would last a lot longer.
This is because a repair on the unit is a very time consuming process and the movement would be disassembled and reassembled for this.
The only time you should have the movement serviced is if it is out of production and not available new, or it is a very high end movement such as a tubular bell.
A tubular bell clock movement is the only one someone would consider doing a repair on rather than a replacement as these are more expensive.
To determine the numbers you have on the movement, you need to get to the back of the brass mechanical clock movement.
Often there are side access panels to the clock if it is a floor clock, and you can look inside with a flashlight.
Taking the movement right out of the case is an option as well, since you will be ordering a different one anyway.
The numbers are located on the bottom of the back plate of the brass movement itself. Not on the paperwork or the clock case, only on the brass movement.
Urgos clock movements have changed numbering systems many years ago.
What this means is the movement you have now may have some markings on it, such as UW32/1A, but this same unit is now called UW32319 as they have a new number for the exact same movement.
If you have an old number style and need to convert to the new number, the movement has definitely lived its life span and it's time to replace it.
This movement is no longer available brand new as it has not been produced for a long time. The best way to get around this situation is to get the closest equivalent movement to this old Urgos unit.
We have a Hermle unit that is of equal quality to replace this however. vA Hermle unit is very close to what you have now, only the locations of the winders on the movement are in slightly different locations.
So what this means is the holes in the clock dial face, where you wind the clock, will not line up with this new movement.
So you will need to cover the old winding holes somehow and drill new ones, or even better get a new dial with your new movement.
Now the dials are a tricky thing, as sometimes we will have them pre-punched for the movement you are ordering, and sometimes we do not have them pre-punched.
If we have to send one with no punching, you will have to drill the holes to wind the clock on your end.
To determine if we have a dial for you in punched or un-punched we would need a picture of the dial you now have so we can attempt to duplicate it with something from our stock, preferably with the punching predrilled so you can wind the clock.
So please email us a picture of your old dial to firstname.lastname@example.org with the dimensional sizes of the clock dial you now have.
Floor clock movements that have three weights are the only ones available.
The spring driven or two weight units have not been made in a very long time and an exact replacement is not available.
If you have a spring driven or two weight Urgos mechanical clock movement, please email us with the movement numbers (example= UW6/61 or UW7/67) and we will let you know what we have that is the closest equivalent movement that can be adapted to fit.
With age, the clock oil will solidify and become more of an abrasive rather than a lubricant.
The oil ends up being this sticky tar like substance and creates wear on the movement, although it is not easy to identify the wear all the time.
Most of the wear occurs in the holes of the brass plates where the pivot arbors stick through it and attempt to spin.
When they are spinning in the hole while lubricated with old sticky oil, this creates wear.
The wear takes place in the pivot holes and the holes become oblong instead of round.
When the holes become oblong the pivots get pinched, and between this and the sticky oil, the clock will ultimately cease to function properly.
A good thorough cleaning would require the movement to be completely disassembled and new brass bushings installed in the pivot holes.
This is a time consuming and sometimes challenging process and therefore it ends up being an expensive service.
With the numbers off of the back plate, we need to figure out if it has an old numbering system or new one.
If you have a / in the number, it’s definitely the old system and therefore an older movement which has lived its life.
If it does not have a / it still may be the old numbering system as well.
So what you do, is go to the drop down menu by the order button, drop down the list and see if your numbers are listed.
If you do not see the numbers listed in the drop down menu, we need to use the chart listed below to find your movement number and get the new number that will be in the drop down menu.
If the old number is listed here in the chart with a conversion to a new number, you will get the same movement that you have now.
Since this is the same movement you have now but new, all of the components to the clock movement should fit fine as well (dial / hands / weights / chime block).
One more thing about the old to new numbers: if the old numbers have a / in it, replace that / with one or sometimes two zeros if the / is in the middle of the old numbers.
EXAMPLE: 32/1 is the same as 32001 and is the same as the converted number 32319.
If there is a letter at the end like 32/1A, ignore the A and pretend it does not exist.
Confused? Our phone number is 800-381-7458 and email is email@example.com
This movement is no longer available brand new as it has not been produced for a long time.
The best way to get around this situation is to get the closest equivalent movement to this old Urgos unit.
We have a Hermle unit that is of equal quality to replace this however.
The Hermle 241 series is a very close unit and can be adapted easily to fit.
If you would like to get the best conversion number and be informed of any movements differences, please email us with your movement number.
You can also email some pictures of the current clock movement in the same email. firstname.lastname@example.org
Many clock case companies put their name on the movements but if the movement starts with UW then it's Urgos.
If you do not find your Urgos clock movement number on the above drop down list, see if your number is below. Many of the older Urgos clock movement numbers have been changed, these would be the exact same Urgos clock movement as you are replacing, just a different number is used to identify it.
After you have the new number, refer back to the drop down list to see if it is there. Some of the numbers have a "/" in the number but your clock may not have the "/" but 0's instead. Just replace the "/" with 0's. Or just forget all this and give us a call 800-381-7458
*The shutoff on the old unit was made at the 3, 6 and 12 o'clock positions. The new unit has a shutoff at the 3 o'clock position only.
Attach a brass rod to the shutoff and drop behind the dial into the case to change chime selector if necessary.
**The new unit has a time winding hole about 1/2 inch below the original. It is necessary to modify the dial to accommodate this.
In addition, the new unit has a time winding drum slightly below the level of the bottom of the unit requiring that the seatboard be "dished out" in that area.