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Hermle quartz discontinued – what now?

The Hermle Quartz clock movements are discontinued and no longer available. This section will discuss what to do for a new unit.

What we can offer

clockworks.com offers alternate movements that have the equivalent sound quality and lasts longer than the Hermle units. They have more features and does not break during daylight savings adjustments like the Hermle Quartz units did after years of service. To get the new movement some things are required to do. First is to be sure the new one will fit into the clock case because some are larger. Then convert the hand shaft from the old one to the new because it is measured in a different way. Lastly get new hands as the old ones will not fit.

Measuring the hand shaft

Once the movement out of the clock and measure the hand shaft it can determined what new movement post length to get. Hermle quartz is not the same as the typical because there is no threaded post. Instead it only has a hand shaft that sticks straight out of the clock movement. Instead of a threaded post on the movement they had a long lock collar to secure the movement instead. Hermle quartz hand shaft is measured from the black plastic base and all the way out. This would be measured out to the end of the minute hand nut area. After measuring this length, subtract a 1/4 inch and this is the post length needed on the new unit.


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Kieninger KSU clock movement

Kieninger clocks have long stood as a beacon of quality and precision in horology, captivating collectors and clockmakers alike with intricate designs and craftsmanship. To appreciate the legacy that Kieninger has built, it’s crucial to explore the brand’s ownership history and how the company’s traditions thrive under current stewardship. The story of who owns Kieninger clocks is as much about preserving traditional craftsmanship as it is about embracing innovation. Through various ownership transitions, the essence of Kieninger has remained, allowing the brand to continue its legacy in modern times.

Who Owns Kieninger Clocks: The Origins of Kieninger Clocks

Joseph Kieninger founded Kieninger in 1912 in Aldingen, Germany. The company quickly became known for producing meticulously crafted clock movements that set the standard for excellence in the industry. Early success came not just from technical precision but also from the artistry in each design. Kieninger soon became synonymous with the best in German clockmaking, attracting attention from clock enthusiasts across Europe and beyond. This early recognition laid the foundation for Kieninger’s century-long reputation as a leader in horology. Over the years, the brand has remained committed to the principles established by its founder, continuing to produce clocks that combine beauty and functionality.

Transitioning Through Ownership

Kieninger’s journey through different ownerships reflects the evolving clockmaking industry. Initially, the Kieninger family oversaw operations, ensuring each piece reflected Joseph Kieninger’s vision of combining mechanical precision with aesthetic beauty. However, as the company grew, external investment became necessary. Each ownership transition brought new perspectives and resources, allowing Kieninger to adapt to market changes while maintaining its high standards. These changes also helped Kieninger explore new markets and expand its global reach. Despite these transitions, the core values of quality and craftsmanship have always been at the forefront of the brand’s mission.

Kieninger RK clock movement

Kieninger’s Place in Today’s Market

Today, Kieninger plays a vital role in the clockmaking industry. The brand’s offerings remain highly sought after for their reliability and timeless appeal. Kieninger movements continue to be a favorite among traditional clockmakers and modern designers alike. At Clockworks, Inc., we proudly carry a wide range of Kieninger products, including movements for both classic and modern designs. Our dedication to offering these quality products ensures that Kieninger remains accessible to clock enthusiasts worldwide. Whether you’re a hobbyist or a professional clockmaker, Kieninger’s exceptional movements provide the precision and durability needed to create timepieces that last for generations.

The Importance of Genuine Kieninger Parts

When repairing or restoring a Kieninger clock, authenticity is key. The intricate engineering in each Kieninger movement requires components precisely matched to original specifications. Using genuine Kieninger parts ensures the longevity of your clock and maintains its historical and monetary value. At Clockworks, Inc., we stock a wide range of genuine Kieninger parts, from essential components like gears and springs to decorative elements like dials and hands. By choosing genuine parts from our inventory, you guarantee the continued precision and beauty of your Kieninger clock. Trusting in authentic parts not only preserves the integrity of your clock but also honors the legacy of craftsmanship that Kieninger represents.

Expert Repair and Restoration Services

In addition to supplying Kieninger parts and movements, Clockworks, Inc. offers specialized repair and restoration services for all types of clocks, including those with Kieninger movements. Our team of expert technicians deeply understands Kieninger clocks’ complexities, from their unique escapements to their finely tuned balance wheels. Whether your clock needs a routine cleaning, a delicate adjustment, or a complete overhaul, we apply meticulous care. Our commitment to quality service ensures that your clock will continue to be a treasured piece for years to come. With years of experience working on Kieninger clocks, our technicians approach each project with the precision and respect these timepieces deserve.

Bell Set For Kieninger

Ordering Kieninger Parts and Services

Navigating clock parts and services can be overwhelming, but at Clockworks, Inc., we make it straightforward. Our website, clockworks.com, provides all the information you need to select the right Kieninger products and services for your clock. Whether you’re a seasoned horologist or a novice, our detailed product descriptions and customer service make it easy to make informed decisions. Browse our online catalog, add items to your cart, and place your order with confidence. We also provide prompt shipping to ensure you receive your parts and services without delay. If you need further assistance, our knowledgeable team is always ready to help guide you through the process. For personalized support, feel free to reach out to us at [email protected].

Who Owns Kieninger Clocks: Final Thoughts

Kieninger’s rich history as a leader in clock movement manufacturing continues to influence horology today. Kieninger maintains its commitment to precision and quality, ensuring that each movement upholds the legacy of its founder. At Clockworks, Inc., we are honored to support this tradition by offering a wide selection of Kieninger movements and parts, along with expert repair services to keep your clocks running smoothly. As you embark on your clock restoration or creation journey, trust Clockworks, Inc. to provide the tools and expertise you need. Visit clockworks.com today to explore our offerings and bring the timeless beauty of Kieninger into your home. By choosing Clockworks, Inc., you are not just purchasing a product; you are investing in a piece of horological history.

 

Kieninger Grandfather Clock Kit GFKIT03



Replacing Hermle quartz movements

Replacing Hermle Quartz movements is sort of tricky. The units are no longer made and the new ones that are available mount in a different way. The Hermle Quartz clock movements were mounted in a way that is not typical to the rest of the quartz clock movements. This has to be taken into consideration during the quartz clock movement conversion to one of these fine alternate units.

Two ways of mounting

The Hermle Quartz are secured with a nut that went through the dial side and into the movement. The new unit instead has a post sticking out of the movement that goes through the back of the dial to the front. The new unit will have a hex nut on the front dial side to keep the movement secured.

What to do

Getting new movement requires to remove the movement from the clock case and do some measuring. So the first step is to get the movement out of the clock. The second is to measure the post that the hands go on. This is measured from the black plastic base and all the way out to the end of the minute hand nut threads. With this measurement, deduct 1/4 inch from this, and this is the length that is needed for the new one.

Get new hands

Hermle Quartz units have unique hands. The minute hand on the new unit will have a larger mounting hole. It maybe possible to enlarge this mounting hole with a needle file so it will fit the new unit. However it is best just to get the new hands with the new unit.


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Removing Hermle Quartz Movement

Removing A Hermle Quartz movement is done by removing a unique mounting nut. It is not the typical 6 sided hex nut like most units have. Instead, it is a nut that has slots on both sides of the hand shaft. It’s just a different way of securing the Hermle Quartz movement to the back of the dial. The slots on the nut have a deep collar with threads that go through the front of the clock dial to screw into the movement. This is in opposition to the common style quartz unit that has a post with threads and utilizes a hex nut. That is the hex nut on the front of the clock face to secure the movement.

Double sided sticky tape method

If the movement mounts to the dial by double sided sticky tape, carefully pry the movement off the back of the dial leaving the dial in tact.

Steps to remove a Hermle quartz

  1. Remove the second hand. Pull it straight and it will come off.
  2. Remove the minute hand nut by turning the nut to the left while holding the hand still.
  3. Take off the hour hand, it is a friction fit only. Pull toward you.
  4. Take off the nut. It is an unusual nut that holds the movement. This nut has a slot on each side. It may be on tight, so it is not always easy to take this off. A special tool to take this nut off is no longer available, will have to improvise. Using two big flat screw drivers, put one on each side of the nut and twist. Be careful not to scratch the dial, because it is easy to slip and make a long scratch on the face.
  5. The movement will now fall out of the back.

Removal is complete

With the Hermle quartz movement out of the clock case, now we can determine the best substitute movement. There are several to choose from.


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Hermle quartz hand shaft measurement

How to measure the Hermle Quartz hand shaft. Measure the entire post that sticks out of the movement. From the plastic base all the way out to the tip of the post. This measurement is different from how all other quartz units are measured.

Hermle used three hand shaft lengths on their base units. These lengths are 16mm, 21mm, and 26mm. There was a time some of the 26mm had an internal modification to create an extremely long hand shaft. It was something like 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 inches. If working with one like this there is no replacement for this unfortunately.

Hermle to regular conversion

The following is the conversion from the Hermle Quartz hand shaft length, to the length of the threaded post to order from us.


  • 1. Measure the hand shaft on your current Hermle quartz clock movement
  • 2. Convert to the post length needed with the below information
  • 3. Order whatever movement you would like from us with that post length.
  • 16mm (About 5/8″) = Get a 5/16 post
  • 21mm (About 3/4″) = Get a 7/16 post
  • 26mm (About 1″) = Get a 11/16 post

Next step to replace the Hermle quartz

Now that the old unit is out of the way and the conversion is known from the old hand shaft length to the new post length, we are ready to shop for a replacement. The next step is to take note of the overall size of the new movement and be sure that it will fit dimensional behind the dial.

The new unit may be taller or wider so be sure it will fit in the clock case. If verified its ok, we can pick a new unit with the post length that was converted. Be sure to get new hands as well. They are on the same page as the product. The old ones will not fit without modifications.

How to measure the Hermle quartz handshaft


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The Best Hermle Quartz Clock Movement Alternatives Options

The best Hermle-quartz clock-movement-alternatives, or replacement are found in the list below. The list is in priority of the best replacement choice to the least. What this means is the closest to the old size, with the best sound quality has the best rating and is on top of the list. It also has the price in this order also, highest to lowest.

  1. MSO Quartz
  2. QU40 Quad Unit
  3. QU30 Seiko Quartz
  4. QU22 Takane Quartz

Hermle Includes the Following Numbers

Hermle quartz clock movements are no longer available, so these are the alternative replacements. They usually decide to give up the ghost at daylight savings, or when there needs to be an adjustment in the time.

  • 2215 (Westminster and Ave Maria pendulum units)
  • 2115 (Westminster and Ave Maria non pendulum units)
  • 2214 (Westminster and Bim Bam pendulum units)
  • 2214 (Westminster and Bim Bam non pendulum units)
  • 2216 (Westminster and Silent Night pendulum units)
  • 2116 (Westminster and Silent Night non pendulum units)
  • 2117 (Ships Bell strike, non pendulum)

Hermle Quartz Ships Bell Note

Note on the 2117 – Unfortunately, there are no quartz units on the market that will play the ship’s bell strike. It is a tricky situation with these as there is no quartz replacement for this one. You can go with the mechanical movement if you do not mind spending about $500 and some time and patience. It will be a conversion process and has quite a bit of involvement. Please contact Clockworks if you would like to pursue this option.


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Hermle Quartz Clock Movement

Hermle 2114 / 2115 Series Discontinued

2114 / 2115 Series (Non Pendulum) Replacement unit

4 1/2W x 2 1/4H x 1 1/8D


Hermle Quartz Clock Movement

Hermle 2214 / 2215 Series Discontinued

2214 / 2215 Series (Pendulum) Replacement unit

4 1/2W x 2 5/8H x 1 1/8D


#MSO Premium Chime

5 1/4″ x 4 5/8″ x 1 1/8″

Chiming Quartz clock movementsWestminster or Ave Maria, quarterly or on the hour only.

  • Volume control
  • Can be use with or without Pendulum
  • 16″ pendulum at longest is used
  • Volume control

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1 $80
4 $75
12 $70

Hermle Quartz Movement Replacement

$80.00

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#QU40 Four Melody Chime

4 9/16″ x 4 3/4″ x 1 1/8″

Chiming Quartz clock movementsWestminster every quarter. Or Westminster, Ave Maria, Bim Bam options only on the hour.

  • Volume control
  • Can be use with or without Pendulum
  • 16″ pendulum at longest is used
  • Auto Night Silence Switch
  • Volume control
  • Light Sensor

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1 $95
5 $90
12 $85

QU40 Chime-Pendulum Clock Movement

$95.00

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#QU30 Chiming Seiko (Great Sound)

Pendulum unit is 3 1/4″T x 5 1/4″W x 1 5/16″D

Non Pendulum unit is 3 1/4″T x 2 3/8″W x 1 5/16″D

Chiming Quartz clock movementsWestminster or Whittington on the quarters

  • Volume control
  • Pendulum or non pendulum units
  • The smallest chime unit available
  • Auto Night Silence Switch
  • Volume control

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Minimum units Price/unit
1 $125
5 $120
12 $115

Chiming Quartz Clock Movement by Seiko

$125.00

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#QU22 Chiming Takane Quartz

Pendulum unit is 3″T x 4 3/4″W x 1 1/4″D

Non Pendulum unit is 3 1/4″T x 2 3/8″W x 1 5/16″D

Chiming Quartz clock movementsWestminster on the quarters

  • Pendulum or non pendulum units
  • Built in speaker
  • One C cell battery required
  • Wider post alert, its 7/16 wide

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Minimum units Price/unit
1 $75
5 $72
12 $67

QU22 Chiming Pendulum Clock Movement

$75.00

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