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Grandfather Grandmother Clock Chain

Replace your Grandfather or grandmother clock chain by the movement maker. Another way is by counting the links per foot (LPF). Simply measure a 12 inch section of chain and count how many links are in that section of chain. Then match it to the LPF in the drop down menu.

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Mechanical Grandfather Clock Weights in a variety of options. Get any part of the weight or the weight complete for your clock, using the weight chart Full article »

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Grandfather Clock Weights Description

The Grandfather Clock Weights Description on this web page will cover what is meant by weights and their parts. Any part of the weight is available on its own. We also offer complete weights. If needing a complete clock weight, we need to determine what the appropriate weight is for the clock.

This requires getting the information off of the back plate of the brass movement itself. This information will not be on any of the paperwork or clock case. Once the movement number is known, cross reference that with the weight chart.

The diameter of the bob in another piece of information that needs to be known. The bob is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum.

The weight chart

Before using the chart, you need to know who made the clock movement. This can be deceiving because the movement can have any name on it, but it may not be the true maker.

For example, a Hermle unit may have the name Sligh, Ridgeway, Howard Miller and so on.

The numbers on the movement is what will lead to getting the correct manufacturer of the movement not the names on the movement. The stamp with these numbers are right on the back plate. Use the movement identification page to find out who made it.

Once the manufacturer is known and the starting numbers of the movement, use the chart to see the weight specifications for the Grandfather clock weights.

Avoiding the weight chart

There is also another way to go about this task, which may be easier. If the movement was made in Germany, post WW2, we can safely make the following assumptions.

If the movement is square and chain driven, it will require [email protected] lbs and [email protected] lbs. These are available in either 47mm or 43mm diameters.

If the pendulum bob is 8 1/2 inches or more, change that rule to [email protected] lbs and [email protected] in 47mm or 43mm. A movement that is rectangle in either chain or cable will use [email protected] and [email protected] LBS in 60mm diameter.

This changes to [email protected] and [email protected] in 60mm diameter if the pendulum bob is 8 1/2 inches or wider. These specifications do not apply if the clock has 5 or 9 big tubes on the back. Also this rule is not for all Grandfather clock weights but the vast majority of the post WW2 German units.

Close enough is good enough

The weight specs list it as 4.7 or 6.6, however this is really being too picky. If getting it close to those numbers that is fine. In fact if ordering a 4.7 lb weight, it may come 5.3 or whatever, but that is just fine.

There has to be some sort of reference for the factory to label the Grandfather clock weights so it is what it is. Just know if it is a pound over that is fine. If it's a little under, that is fine also. They do not have to be exact.

Often wrong from the start

In fact, there is a lot of clocks in the world sold new with the wrong Clock Weights on them from the start.

Clockworks will do a repair and they will say the clock ran for 30 years straight and come to find out they had Grandfather clock weights that were a pound or two too heavy. If the weights are a little too heavy it is fine. A lighter weight may or may not be fine because it may not trigger the movement to work properly.

Grandfather Clock Weights Description - Conclusion

Grandfather clock Weights are not cheap mainly because they are so heavy to keep, ship, store, move from here to there.

Sure one weight set of three is less than 30 lbs but that adds up quickly in a stack of weight sets.

With that said, we don't want to ship these back and forth. It is best to get the right weights the first time. To return these is not an inexpensive or easy task. For example, suppose we charge $30 to ship these and for some reason they are wrong. Then it is $30 to get them back to us and another $30 to send out a new set.

In addition, UPS charges a fee to send a call tag for them to come back. That is $110 to UPS for no reason. So if there are questions, please ask.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2022

Grandfather Clock Weights Stuck

The Grandfather clock weights can get stuck in the high position if over wound. Some larger clocks have over wind protection to prevent this.

The grandmother and grandfather chain drive units often do not have this feature. When winding the weights up make sure the top of the weight can be seen when done. Never go to the point where the top of the shiny weight cover can't be seen.

Chime weight stuck

The chime weight is on the right as you face the clock and has the heaviest weight. Using cloth gloves, or at least a cloth of some kind, pull down on the weight some.

This is the same as making the weight weigh more. At the same time, turn the minute hand past the quarter hour to see if it will engage the chime. When you advance the time and make it chime, the weight will slowly come down. This will hopefully be enough to activate and run the chime on its own.

Time weight stuck

The time weight is the center weight which can be light or heavy depending on bob size.

This is the hardest weight to deal with out of the three. Try pulling down some while swinging the pendulum.

See if it starts running on its own when letting go. If this does not work, take off the pendulum. All it will have is the pendulum leader hanging on the back of the movement.

This will make it tick tock faster than if the pendulum was on. The leader will tick tock faster as you pull down some on the weight. The weight will then come down enough to run the clock.

If all else fails, and it’s a chain driven clock, you would need to cut the chain in half, or break a link, to take the movement out of the clock. With the movement out of the clock you can fix it.

Strike weight stuck

The strike weight is on the left as you face the clock and has the lightest weight. Only after the chime weight is operating correctly can you work on the strike weight.

If the clock does not run through the chime sequence it will not get to where it strikes out the hours. With some cloth gloves on, or at least a cloth of some kind, pull down on the weight some.

Again, this is the same as making the weight weigh more. Doing this will make the clock strike. Advance the minute hand and let it chime each quarter until it plays the top of the hour song. Then pull a little on the weight when it is going to strike out the hours.

Keep advancing the time with the minute hand, as to make it chime and strike. Then slowly the weight will come down enough to be able to activate and run the strike on its own.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2022
Hermle clock weight specifications If the pendulum bob is 8.5, or larger, the time weight should be the same as the chime weight instead. (Tubular Bell movements are an exception)
Urgos clock weight specifications If the pendulum bob is 8.5, or larger, the time weight should be the same as the chime weight instead. (Tubular Bell movements are an exception)
Kieninger clock weight specifications If the pendulum bob is 8.5, or larger, the time weight should be the same as the chime weight instead. (Tubular Bell movements are an exception)

Changing a Clock Cable

Changing a clock cable requires the movement to be out of the clock case. These instructions refer to post WW2 modern grandfather units of German origin, however all makes have a similar method. Swapping the cable is easy. There is a big hole and a little hole on the cable mount.

The cable end fits into the big hole, then slides over to seat into the little hole. When the lock is set, it seats in securely. It's the same basic theme on both ends of the cable, meaning, one slot being in the cable drum itself and the other on the movement.

The cable drum side of the cable

To remove, lift the cable up from the oblong hole on the drum and slide it over to the big side. The cables have ends made of brass on them. These get slid over from the small side of the slot on the cable drum to the larger slot. It will release so as to remove it from the clock movement.

The other end of the cable

The movement itself would normally have the plates set for the cable ends. The cables have round brass ends on them and these lock into a plate on the movement.

This plate will have a small hole leading to a big hole. To remove the cable it requires only lifting the end and moving over to the big hole and out.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2022

Grandfather Grandmother Clock Chain

Replace your Grandfather or grandmother clock chain by the movement maker. Another way is by counting the links per foot (LPF). Simply measure a 12 inch section of chain and count how many links are in that section of chain. Then match it to the LPF in the drop down menu.

The links may separate a bit as the chain advances in age. So it is not always easy to count the correct number. Simply do your best. Just select the closest number of links that you were able to count. The chains will attach to the ratchet wheel as long as it is close enough.

Of note, all Hermle chain driven units take a 46.5 LPF chain. This makes it easy to replace any chain that is for Hermle movements. Cuckoo clock chains are sold in a different section on Clockworks. So chains for cuckoo clocks will not be in this list.

Clock Chain Installation

Installing the clock chain is simple. One end of the chain has a hook and the other end has a tab. Just loop the chain over the ratchet wheel. Make sure the hook end is on the side of the ratchet that will not move when you pull it.

To remove the tab, simply separate one of the links to take it off. When the chain is in place, slide the tab back on the chain link and close it with a pair of needle nose pliers.

In addition, the loop end will be on the other side of the chain. Furthermore, the weight is meant to be up in the air when you pull the chain. So when it is hung it should not come crashing down. Again, the loop can come off simply by using needle nose pliers to open up one of the links.

Additional information

Weight0.25 lbs
Size

38LPF 2.0mm 72in =Kieninger, 40LPF 1.8mm 60in =UW03, 43LPF 1.6mm 72in, 45LPF 1.6mm 60ins =Kieninger SK, 45LPF 1.4mm 72in =8 Day Hubert Herr, 46.5LPF 1.7mm 60in =Hermle and Urgos, 46.5LPF 1.7mm 60in Dark =Hermle and Urgos, 48LPF 1.2mm 78in =Regula 34, 48LPF 1.2mm 78in Dark Brass =Regula 34, 52LPF 1.05mm 70in Brass, 59LPF 09mm 78in Brass =1 Day Hubert Herr, 61LPF 0.9mm 70in Brass =Regula 25, 61LPF 0.9mm 70in Dark Brass =Regula 25, 66LPF 0.7mm 70in Brass, 72LPF 0.7mm 70in Brass

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david klucznik
david klucznik
1 month ago

I have herman milller 610-520. THe back of the clock movement has SK512 116cm 354-500. We were gifted the clock. The one chain (left) is pretty stuck but I can get it off. The right chain and middle chain are not on. I was given one chain, but I’m guessing I’m missing the other chain. What chain do I need for this clock.

Myron Noyce
Myron Noyce
3 months ago

I have a Howard Miller 610-850 we lost the chains while moving the clock from state to state. Could you tell me if this clock takes chains or cables, Howard Miller sent me cables but my weights have hooks on the top of them and I don’t know how a cable goes on them

Myron Noyce
Myron Noyce
3 months ago

MS002

Myron Noyce
Myron Noyce
3 months ago

There are no loops hanging from the pulleys it is just the pulley

Myron Noyce
Myron Noyce
3 months ago

MS 002

Johnny Ponder
Johnny Ponder
6 months ago

Need a time chain for a kieninger mku01

Bill Carlton
Bill Carlton
6 months ago

Hello,
I am looking for a chime chain for a howard miller grandfather clock model 451-050H 92cm/66.

bill carlton
bill carlton
6 months ago

Do you have a chain in stock?

Tom
Tom
8 months ago

Hi I am looking for chain for movement UW 7/47 for time and strike. Could you please help me choose right one from the list on your website
thanks Tom

Sheree
Sheree
8 months ago

Hi! My chains to a Howard Miller model 610-793 were lost in a move. Could you advise on replacements? Thank you!

Sheree
Sheree
8 months ago

Hi! Thank you for the directions for finding the number. It is 1350329809

Sheree
Sheree
8 months ago

Hi James, The number is 1350329809. Thank you for that direction, it made it easy to find. I sure hope this is it. Lol!

Sheree
Sheree
8 months ago

MSU01. Hope this is correct!

Enrika G.
Enrika G.
8 months ago

Hello,
I have a Sligh grandfather clock in need of 3 chains. If possible, could you please advise which size chain may work?
Sligh model 0807-1-AB
Holland, Michigan
Thank you for your time!

Enrika G.
Enrika G.
8 months ago

Thank you for your guidance. We were able to find the following:
UW66016
UR 805 (or 305)
Made in Germany No (0) Jewels Unadjusted
57048

Reg. No. 427-0001-6003A
Dial no. 6436
Pendulum no. 6437
Weightshell no. 2771

We don’t see any other numbers.
Thank you for your time.

Eleanor Santos
Eleanor Santos
10 months ago

I have a New England Clock company pendulum wall clock. One chain broke.
Do your chains fit this clock? does it come with hooks on one end and tabs on the other
or do I need to transfer the ones from these chains onto the new ones if I order?

Steve
Steve
10 months ago

I need a new chain for my Ridgeway grandfather clock. Below is the info from the movement…

86
Ridgeway Clocks
Ridgeway VA 24148
451-053H
94cm / 66

Thanks!!

Steve
Steve
10 months ago

Thank you!

tthuff
tthuff
10 months ago

Howard Miller G/F clock. SKS13 116cm number 354499 on plate.
need one chain with hook/loop ends.
I think I counted 45LPF

also need to know which weight goes in each position.

Thank you for your assistance!

Thom Huff

Steve Wilson
Steve Wilson
11 months ago

I have a Ridgeway Grandfather clock missing one of the chains for a weight. The numbers on the back plate of the movement are 451-033H, 114 cm, 60. Any help in identifying a replace chain would be greatly appreciate,

Thanks,
Steve

Steve Wilson
Steve Wilson
11 months ago

I have a Ridgeway grandfather clock, model 322, movement # HV, that is missing a chain for one of the weights, It measure ~ 60 in length minus the end connection, Please help me in identifying the correct chain to purchase. Thanks, Steve

Doug White
Doug White
1 year ago

I have an old cuckoo clock with cast plates and a mark of GK on the back plate. I need to get chains for it. The sprockets have 6 teeth and the effective diameter of the wheel is approx. 24.5 mm. Any help for a chain size would be appreciated.

David Berry
David Berry
1 year ago

I’ve come into a low end Viking series 111 grandfather clock that has no chains. Do you know the size? It’s part m-173b. Thank you.

Gary Gardner
Gary Gardner
1 year ago

I’m trying to find chains for a clock that was my father’s. The name on the movement is erhand jauch. I don’t understand all of the numbers on clockwork website. The piece of chain I have is 47 links per foot. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hollywood
Hollywood
1 year ago

I have a Howard miller grand father clock mode number 610-572 serial number mf0030640030 what size chains do I need ?

Hollywood
Hollywood
1 year ago

That number is 6230770244

Hollywood
Hollywood
1 year ago

Sks13 – 116cm-354-574

Alex
Alex
1 year ago

Hello, I have a Hermle watch Code 461-053 114/60 What chains can I order?

John Edmiston
John Edmiston
1 year ago

I just need a brass colored chain. What is meant by “Kieninger”, “UW03” “Hermle” and “Urgos”? I have the LPF number but want to make sure I have the right size chain. No idea who made the works, I made the clock as a high school shop project 45 years ago.

John Edmiston
John Edmiston
1 year ago

Looks like the name on the plate is Mason & Sullivan

John Edmiston
John Edmiston
1 year ago

Hard to get a good picture. Looks like 451-05011 and well as 94 cm/66. Make sense?

Joseph Rappold
Joseph Rappold
1 year ago

Hello,
I received a howard miller grandfather clock 610-895 but it’s missing its chains do you know which ones are the correct replacements?

Last edited 1 year ago by Joseph Rappold
Drew Scurachio
Drew Scurachio
1 year ago

We have a Sligh grandfather clock that we purchased 25 years ago. 
Model is 0891-1-AB
Movement 500-0002
Reg 154-121-09

When we had our house remodeled the chains were misplaced or possibly thrown out by mistake.
How do we replace the 3 chains?
I miss the sounds of my grandfather clock.
I hope you can help.
Thank you. 

Matt
Matt
1 year ago

Hi, I have a Ridgeway clock that I just got but I need to get the chains for it. On the back it says 451-033 and then 94cm/66. Do you know what LPF chain I should get?

Bruce A Chrestensen
Bruce A Chrestensen
1 year ago

Can you tell me what chains supposed to be for a UW32-319H-01

Jim
Jim
1 year ago

I lost my chains during a move. The following is the information on the back of my clock

84
king Arthur
451-050H
94cm
66

can you tell me what chains I need to order?

John Hartzler
John Hartzler
1 year ago

The numbers on the back brass plate of my Howard Miller Grandfather clock say SKS 13 and 354-499. I need weights and weight chains. Can you tell me what weights and chains I need?

John Hartzler
John Hartzler
1 year ago

Thank you very much! Very helpful!

Ben Cooke
Ben Cooke
1 year ago
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Beautiful thanks.

Sarah
Sarah
2 years ago

My boss is asking me to replace her clock chains but I have zero info on the clock other than standard size grandfather clock. Is there a common chain I can order that will suffice? I have no access to the clock but am supposed to order the chains asap.

Robert LaForme
Robert LaForme
2 years ago

When will you get more chains in stock? I need 38lpf

acstudio
acstudio
3 years ago

Hi im looking a replacement chain for my clock…. How can check which size measurement that fit my current clock?

Corey Salt
Corey Salt
2 years ago

Hi James. I have the same question. All that’s stamped on mine is a 6 digit (serial?) number with the code UW 32/1 above that number. Can you help with that?

Patricia Brown
Patricia Brown
3 years ago

How to replace a chain & weight