Kieninger H Series clock movement
Kieninger H Series clock movement
Kieninger H Series clock movement
Kieninger H Series clock movement
Kieninger H Series clock movement
Kieninger H Series clock movement
Kieninger H Series clock movement
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H Series Kieninger Clock Movement Conversion

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H Series Kieninger Clock Movement Conversion

H Series Kieninger Clock Movements boast large 6 x 9 plates, utilize chain driven technology, and proudly display the Kieninger name along with a CM number (like 116cm) on the movement itself. These units are no longer available. What is being sold is a conversion kit for an alternate movement with great durability.

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Kieninger Clock Movement - Replace instead of repair. A fraction of the price, lasts longer, ships now. Instructions and expert support.- Clockworks
Kieninger Clock MovementKieninger IdentificationOrdering the clock movementWhy get a new Kieninger?

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Kieninger clock movement identification

The identification process is the first step to replace a Kieninger clock movement or any other components. To begin with, start with the movement number in order to purchase a new clock movement and to see the price and what it includes.

Also, these numbers are essential to get compatible components for the clock. Examples of some components include pendulums, dials, hands, keys, cranks, chime blocks, mounting screws, weights, pulleys or chains.

Decoding Kieninger clock movements

For example, let's say the movement numbers are 81 K 116cm.

  • 1981 = If it is an on older unit, the 81 would be the year it was made. On new units this number is not the year but only an internal engineering code.
  • K = The K is the movement series. This is the basic raw movement plate size and internal gear configuration.
  • 116CM = This is the pendulum length, in centimeters, from the top of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the rating nut. This is true only for the smallest 4 1/2 inch bob diameter.

Kieninger Clock Movement Identification

Dating the Kieninger movement

In the above description, 81 is the date, however this is not always true in later years. After a certain date that first number is no longer the date that it was made. Rather that first number became an engineering code that has nothing to do with the date.

So it may or may not be the date code, ignore this as it is not pertinent to replacing the unit. There is no longer a solid way to date the Kieninger clock movement unless there is a stamp on the back plate.

We can help

The new movement will fit into the clock case just as the old one did. Keep using the same components such as the dial, pendulum, chime block and weights.

If it is a weight driven clock it will come with the chime hammers as well as chains or cables. If this decoding process is confusing, just email the numbers or a picture to us. We are happy to help with figuring out the best course of action. Similarly, Kieninger clock movement questions and ordering can be done by phone as well.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2022

Kieninger Clock Movement Ordering

Kieninger clock movement ordering starts with the numbers off of the back plate of the clockworks. The numbers help us figure out the correct unit by plate size. After we get the plate size we narrow it down by attributes such as triple chime.

In other works all the units that have the letter K on the back will have the same plate size. After we determine we have a K series we select things like triple chime or Westminster only. If there are any other uncommon things after that we select it. Such as sequential or carousal or other special qualities such as this.

Steps to a new Kieninger clock movement

First go to the letter that is also on the stamp on the back plate of the movement only. If for example the movement number is 81 K 116cm ignore all but the K at first.

Find the K series on the Kieninger movement page at Clockworks.com. Then we can continue with matching up the CM in the drop down list.

Attribute selection

On that same drop down list with the CM list there are some other options usually. The options to select are the specific qualities the movement may or may not have on the movement. Such things as Westminster only or triple chime.

If there are dancers on the movement it may say carousel. Just pick the whatever movement you have that matches the options.

After ordering the Kieninger movement

After ordering the new Kieninger clock movement you will receive a receipt via email. The installation instructions will also be sent via a link on the receipt. Weight driven units will include chains or cables.

The new movement will ship the next business day by FedEx ground or Priority Mail.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2022

New Clock Movement Benefits

New clock movement benefits far outweigh the benefits of a restoration. This section will explain why that is and what the best course of action is to get your clock working.

Servicing the movement

Clocks need to have fresh oil after 10 years or so. Then, after 20 or 30 years, a full break down of the movement is necessary. This is all well and good and can be done with the old movement.

The movement will run for another 5 or 15 years with no issues but then it will be time to do it again. So obviously this is a new clock movement benefit.

Every time the movement needs to have work done on it or needs bushings, it will last less and less time before it needs attention again. So another new clock movement benefit is that this would not happen.

The repair process is expensive because it takes time to separate the plates, remove all the gears, do the necessary work, and then put them all back together again.

This process may need to be redone if not perfect the first time. The turn around time to complete an overhaul on a clock movement could be anywhere from 1 to 3 months, and in some extreme cases, a year.

It is a slow moving venture that costs twice as much as a new movement would. If a new clock movement is not available, then this is the best, and only, way to handle a clock repair.

Replacing with a new clock movement

If the clock movement is still in production, it is far better to just get the new clock movement. Mass production makes the movement so affordable it will cost a fraction of the price of the repair work.

The new clock movement will be the same one but brand new and ready to run 30 years without much complaint. There is absolutely no way to repair an old clock movement so that it is better than new.

Even the best clockmaker using the best equipment cannot make the clock movement better than a new one.

A new clock movement is a factory fresh restart. The clock will be like it was originally when you first made the purchase from the store. The new clock movement will be made by the same people, with the same machines, and the clock movement is the same.

It is not a close replica or made somewhere else besides Germany. It is the same movement. Not a knock off or replica. So wouldn't it make sense to get the new clock movement instead of chasing the old?

The choice is clear and obvious. The new movement will cost a fraction of the price and the clock is up and running in no time.

Movements That Would Need a Repair or an Overhaul

If a new clock movement is not possible, then a repair is most likely the only option. However we will try to convert it to a new clock movement that is close and easy to adapt.

If it is not an easy one to adapt, or would take too much case work, then the best solution is to have us work on it. Another clock movement to consider having restored instead of replacing it is the tubular bell, which is a high end movement.

The price of a tubular bell new clock movement makes an overhaul more attractive. This is due to the high price on the new clock movements which is over $1600.

Usually the price is less for the new unit but instead these new clock movements are more costly than the overhaul by Clockworks anyway.

We can charge a much lower amount for the complete overhaul on these units. Ultimately the choice is yours. There is a good argument in both directions that makes sense on these expensive new clock movements.

Clockworks = The best repair service

We would love to do the clock movement overhaul here at Clockworks and we do the best job. There are two ways to fix clocks; the easy way and the hard way. We only repair clock movements the hard way with no short cuts.

Even with new clock movements, we inspect them and make sure all is well before shipping them out. It is even more important for us to do your repair than another company because we do not go to your house. There is no one being intrusive in your home and possibly damaging your clock case.

The clock movement itself is the only item that gets sent to us. No components need to be sent since we have everything else here such as weights, dials and pendulums. It is a great advantage to have Clockworks work on your clock movement for this fact alone.

A clock supply depot such as us does not need to wait for parts. We possess everything we could possibly need to complete a thorough, professional clock repair right here. If a new clock movement is not possible, then this repair is your best and only option.

The new movement

New clock movement benefits usually do indeed outweigh the repair option. The movement will already have lubrication with clock oil so there is no need to oil it.

The new clock movement comes with cables and pulleys, or chains, the leader, and suspension spring.

This is everything that comes out when you remove the two screws that are under the clock movement, besides the dial and weights.

Once you get the hands and the clock dial out of the way (instructions are sent via email) it's only a matter of removing the two screws from underneath.

The new clock movement can then be put in by someone with experience in 10 or 15 minutes. A person with no experience will take longer, but the point is that it isn't hard to do. This is definitely a new clock movement benefit.

There are some instances where a clock case was made in an annoying way that makes it more difficult, but for clock movements that were in a mass production this is not the situation. This relates more to a few individual clockmakers who's design of the case makes it more tricky to get the new clock movement in or out.

Summary of New Clock Movement Benefits

A new clock movement is typically less than half the cost of an overhaul.

It will also be on its way to the customer instantly instead of months later. A new clock movement will last the longest of any other choice.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2022

H Series Kieninger Clock Movement Conversion

The Kieninger H series movement is a German made chain driven Westminster or triple chime, 8 day movement that is no longer made or available. So instead we offer a conversion kit. Alternatively, we can restore the old one. This is done with the best system and equiptment available in the industry and done by top experts.

Hermle is another good quality German clock maker. It is close enough to the obsolete H series unit that it is a suitable conversion. Despite the plates not being as thick and robust it is still excellent quality.

Before replacement or restoration, think about the H series as a 45 year movement, at best, and the Hermle as a 30 year movement, at best. Consider the following differences between the two units. And solutions to overcome these differences.

The movement for the H Series Kieninger Clock Movement Conversion

The movement will be the same in terms of being chain driven. Also it will still have quarterly chimes with 8 or 12 hammers on the back. What is different is the plate size. The conversion unit will have less height, and more width. To fit the shorter height, the conversion kit includes two wooden spacer blocks.

The movement sits on the spacer blocks and the spacer blocks sit on the seatboard. The seatboard screws go up through the seatboard. Then they go through the blocks and then the movement. This lifts the handshaft on the movement where it needs to be. This is so the dial can stay in the same spot.

The Dial for Kieninger

Clock faces with four mounting feet on the back are not compatible with this conversion kit. The feet get cut off with bolt cutters. Sometimes they unscrew or just bend them and snap them off. The point is to get the four mounting feet out of the way.

Next, drill small holes in the corners of the dial. Then attach it to the back of the wood dial trim with small wood screws. Unfortunately, if there's a moon phase, it is not usable with the new movement.

It will not have the necessary gears to spin. Most people do not pay much attention to it, but if this is an important feature, then it is important to know that it won't spin.

The new dial still needs to attach to the wood trim, however it will not spin the moon. Also, clocks with a second hand sweep requires a new dial as well. Default for this conversion is the assumption of using the old dial with no second hand bit and no function of the moon phase spinning.

The Pendulum for the H Series Kieninger Clock Movement Conversion

The pendulum length is the same, however the way it attaches to the clock is different. The H001 units have a 1 inch wood stick pendulum with a single fold over top hook. This allows it to mount on the pendulum leader (hanger).

To install the new unit, swap the top hook that comes with the kit. It's a simple process. Just crimp it on. However, if your pendulum is a metal lyre instead of a wooden stick, it might require more effort.

For a fee, we can customize a pendulum leader (hanger) that accommodates the current pendulum. Alternately, there is always the option to purchase a new pendulum to go along with the new movement. Default for this conversion is the assumption that it now has a 1 inch wide wood stick pendulum.

The Chime Block Kieninger

You may, or may not, need to reverse the chime rods within the mounting block. This means that if the order of the rods are short to long, they may need to change to long to short.

The shortest rod needs to be on the chime side closest to the back of the clock case and not closest to the movement. These rods mount with a flat head screw so use a big flat head screwdriver to remove or install.

The Hands and Moon Gear

The H001 has a larger diameter hour hand tube and minute hand mount. So the old hands will not fit the new movement. Thus new hands come with the conversion kit.

The old moon gear does not fit on the new movement so the moon will no longer spin on the new movement. Not a lot of people pay attention to the moon function so this is usually not a problem.

What is sent for the H Series Kieninger Clock Movement Conversion

Get your clock ticking with this complete kit! It includes the brand-new movement with chains, leader, and hand nut, all with oil in key wear areas for smooth operation. In addition, the kit includes spacer wood blocks, new hands, and a new pendulum top hook, making installation easier.

Furthermore, the kit also includes longer seatboard screws to accommodate the additional thickness of the spacer blocks.

What is not sent

The old chime block, dial, pendulum and weights should all be fine. Just follow the above instructions.

Our expert horologists can guide you through the installation process. So don't hesitate to reach out to Clockworks! We are always happy to help.

Additional information

Weight5 lbs
Type

Westminister Only, Triple Chime, Triple Chime 9 Tubular Bell, Restore YOUR Westminister Only, Restore YOUR Triple Chime, Restore YOUR Triple Chime 9 Tube

H Series Kieninger Clock Movement Conversion

  • 116CM Pendulum
  • Chain Driven
  • Hand shaft 56mm
  • 8 or 12 Hammer back
  • German Made
  • Same Day Shipping
  • Factory Oil in key areas

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John byrnes
John byrnes
5 months ago

Joseph kieninger grandfather clock triple chime cable driven.
My question is it is stamped on the back plate as K 11. 116cm I know the 116 cm is pendulum size but what is the K 11
Thank you

John byrnes
John byrnes
5 months ago

Hi what possible date would that fall into

kennymoreno57
kennymoreno57
8 months ago

I have a round top German clock dating back to the early 1900. My problem is the strike hammer rods are very loose and doesn’t hit the chime rods. The clock keeps great time but sounds bad when chiming. The information on the movement is the Kieninger logo and number reading 2514. Any thoughts on how to fix or do you recommend a new movement? If a new movement is recommended, what movement will work?

Kenneth Moreno
Kenneth Moreno
8 months ago

Hi, I recently purchased an old German grandfather clock and would like to replace the movement. Looking at the markings on the movement I believe the movement is Kineinger. The serial number on the movement is 2514. Any thoughts what movement will work if I decide to purchase a new one?

Carl THORNE
Carl THORNE
1 year ago

I am in the process of replacing the middle chain and weight on a old grandfather clock believed to be a KIENINGER movement. The chain came off during a move, the problem is how to re-thread this chain?

Brian Larswich
Brian Larswich
1 year ago
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Very nice.

Fredrick Rodriguez
Fredrick Rodriguez
1 year ago
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Excellent help, my wife and I are very happy.

David A Genelly
David A Genelly
2 years ago

Hi– we have a Stickley Mission tall case clock with an H series ( HSO 22, 116 cm) movement. It is time and strike only. It is chain driven with two winding holes. We need a new movement and were wondering if you have anything that would fit the bill.

Iyan
Iyan
4 years ago

I want to custom my polaris tempus fugit grandfather clock with this movement and do you sale the dial and weight i want to buy kit the movement and dial and weight thanks

Iyan
Iyan
4 years ago

Do this movement have night shut off