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1171 clock movement series
The 1171 clock movement series is the premium flagship by Hermle Clock Company. This is the largest clock movement out of all the Hermle movements produced. The thick plates make this the heaviest clock movement also. Comparable to the Kieninger HTU series. The cost is less and has a greater part availability. This is because there is alot more of these units made, this is a good thing. Because there is more made, parts are more available, and it has less cost.
The price may or may not look as menacing as the movement itself to you. It is a bargain in disguise however. New clocks with these units always start at $4000 and go as high as the sky really. Now keep in mind this is the best movement style on the market. A price of a new German tubular bell clock is very high. The cost of a new clock must be more in the wood case. Because as you can see, the movement or complete kit has a reasonable price in comparison.
This makes it attractive to the wood worker and understandably so. The clock kit is one of the most easy to install. It comes already mounted on the seat board and the tube rack is already attached. So really mounting it in the case, and hanging or clipping everything on it. There is not even a chime block to mount because its just hanging tubes instead.
The experts on the 1171 series
Clock makers are here to help and answer questions. We can help with the install or set up, or with a question you have about it 6 years from now. Long after the warranty runs out, we will still be here.
- Less cost than a cleaning in most cases
- Should last 25-30 years, a repair would not
- Easy to install, we can help if needed
- Ships same day as order
Hermle Clock Movement Identification
Most important is the identification of the Hermle clock movement and it requires locating the numbers on the back plate of the movement itself. This can be done by removing access panels, sticking a phone inside and taking a picture, or even a mirror. Use any possible means to get the number of the Hermle clock movement. This information is not in the manual that came with the clock or on the wood case. On the back plate of the Hermle clock movement there are numbers such as 451-050 94 cm. These numbers indicate everything there is to know about that particular mechanical Hermle clock movement.
Mechanical Clock Movement Wear
Mechanical clock movement wear after years go by because the oil turns solid. With age, the mechanical clock movement's oil solidifies and becomes black and sticky. By the time 20 or 30 years go by, the oil has solidified and is creating wear on the brass plates of the movement. So, when this happens, the clock movement will not run correctly. This is when the movement will need a cleaning or be replaced. Of course, a brand new movement is always your best option.
What wear and where
If you look at your old clock movement, you will see holes in the brass plates where there are small pivot arbors sticking into these holes. These pivots are what the gears of the clock ride upon and as the pivots spin in the solidified oil, this makes the holes oblong instead of round. With the pivot holes oblong, the holes are pinching the pivots and creating resistance in the gear train. With the solidified oil and the pinched pivots, the clock will eventually stop working or chiming.
Invisible clock movement wear
This wear takes place in the holes that are in the brass plates and is hard to identify sometimes. These holes in the brass plates become oblong instead of round and this pinches the pivot arbor going into it. Between this, and the solid oil, the clock ceases to function. To have this repaired is an expensive and long process. To have a mechanical movement serviced can cost two times as much or even three times the amount of the new one. However, once the movement starts having problems due to the oblong pivot holes, something will need to be done. The clock will never stay running otherwise.
New Clock Movement Benefits
Getting the movement worked on
Clocks need to have fresh oil after 10 years or so. Then, after 20 or 30 years, a full break down of the movement is necessary. This is all well and good and can be done with the old movement. The movement will run for another 5 or 15 years with no issues but then it will be time to do it again. So obviously this is a new clock movement benefit.
Hermle Clock Movement Aliases
Hermle produces clock movements but the use of aliases is quite prevalent. The movement could have a stamp with any name but really it will be made by Hermle. Some companies bought so many movements that they were able to get their name on the movement instead of Hermle. The following is only a partial list of names that could be on the clock movement.
The best Aliases in Disguise
Seth Thomas and Mason and Sullivan had not only their name, but also their own internal numbering system. Their stamp and number was on the movement instead of the Hermle number. Since it is not a Hermle number, the number would need to have a conversion to the real number. Correspondingly, this is done with the Mason and Sullivan chart, or the Seth Thomas conversion Chart. However the Seth Thomas chart is not very accurate, please see instructions on that page.
Selecting the 1171 Hermle Clock Movement
The numbers on the back plate of the 1171 Hermle Clock Movement is everything one needs to get a replacement. If the numbers match then the movement matches.Be sure to select the proper CM length that matches the old unit.
- 94, 114CM Pendulum
- Hand shaft 53.2mm
- Brand New and Original
- Chain or Cable Driven
- Triple Chime
- Autonight Shutoff
- A fraction of the price of an overhaul
- Should last 25-30 years, an overhaul would not
- Instructions and expert support
- Hermle Clock Movement of Germany
- 1171 Hermle Clock Movement
1171-050 Hermle Clock Movement
The Hermle 1171 clock movement is a triple chime chain driven unit with three weights. This is a rectangle shaped movement with the movement plate size of 152 x 220mm and takes a size #8 crank (If cable). What is being offered on this page is the movement only with out the pendulum, gong or dial.
Ordering a Hermle Clock Movement
The numbers off of the back plate of the movement itself are needed when ordering a Hermle clock movement. The numbers are matched up so the new movement will be exactly the same as the old one. Replacing the movement is a fraction of the price of a repair. It is also the fastest way to get the clock up and running again.
Clock movement removal and installation
Removing and installing the clock movement requires the most basic tools. If you can change the spark plug on your lawn mower, this will be a breeze. All of the Hermle clock movements are in stock and ship immediately. We are full time clock makers and retailers. This means we can help you from start to finish. If you need assistance in picking out the correct Hermle clock movement, installation or troubleshooting, we can help. Please do not hesitate to ask.
Matching the CM when ordering
This note only applies if the current Hermle clock movement has a pendulum. Please match up the CM length from the back plate of the old unit to the new one. The options in the drop down menu ultimately indicate stock items that are available. However, if there is a CM number that is needed and is not listed, we can usually create it by changing some gears. If this is the situation please give us a call 800 381 7458. There is an extra fee for regearing the movement. Usually this is an additional fee of $30 to $40.
Replacing a movement is less costly than an overhaul. The movement will last another 25 years before needing any work. Since it is still in production, and offered at a very reasonable price, it makes sense to replace the movement. The clock will be problem free right away, instead of months. Plus it will inevitably last longer than an even the best overhaul. There is no way you can get better than brand new. So please make the wise decision of replacing whenever possible.
Hermle Clock Movement Directory Explanation
Above all, a Hermle Clock Movement Directory is to get to the correct page that contains the proper clock movement. This is an important first step when ordering a new clock movement. Thus, Hermle mechanical movements have numbers on the back plate starting with the below few numbers. Then a dash (-) follows and then some more numbers. For example: 340-020 131-070 1161-853 351-020 and so forth. So, if the clock says something like 1161-053 drop the second half and click the 1161 button below. Then this will bring up the page where the 1161-053 is as well as the rest of the 1161 series.
Hermle Clock Movement Directory, Number starts with.....
If Not Listed
If the old Hermle clock movement is not found on these pages we may still have it as a conversion or we may be able to create it out of what exists. However, we need to know the movement number. So please email your movement number. Of course a picture of the back plate is also helpful. Moreover, if your movement numbers do not look like the Hermle movement numbers it may be made by someone else. Additionally, the mechanical movement identification page will assist you with determining who made the clock. In any event, this is for post WW2 modern mechanical clock movements made in Germany only.