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1171 clock movement series
The 1171 clock movement series is the premium flagship by Hermle Clock Company. This is the largest clock movement out of all the Hermle movements produced. The thick plates make this the heaviest clock movement also. Comparable to the Kieninger HTU series. The cost is less and has a greater part availability. This is because there is alot more of these units made, this is a good thing. Because there is more made, parts are more available, and it has less cost.
The price may or may not look as menacing as the movement itself to you. It is a bargain in disguise however. New clocks with these units always start at $4000 and go as high as the sky really. Now keep in mind this is the best movement style on the market. A price of a new German tubular bell clock is very high. The cost of a new clock must be more in the wood case. Because as you can see, the movement or complete kit has a reasonable price in comparison.
This makes it attractive to the wood worker and understandably so. The clock kit is one of the most easy to install. It comes already mounted on the seat board and the tube rack is already attached. So really mounting it in the case, and hanging or clipping everything on it. There is not even a chime block to mount because its just hanging tubes instead.
Clock makers are here to help and answer questions. We can help with the install or set up, or with a question you have about it 6 years from now. Long after the warranty runs out, we will still be here.
- Less cost than a cleaning in most cases
- Should last 25-30 years, a repair would not
- Easy to install, we can help if needed
- Ships same day as order
Hermle Clock Movement Identification
Identification is done with the numbers on the back plate of the Hermle clock movement. Not from the manual that came with the clock, and not off the wood case. On the back plate of the clock movement you will see the numbers such as 451-050 94cm. These numbers let us know everything we need to know about the mechanical clock movement itself. This tells us if its weight driven, the plate size, and every other aspect of the movement.
When the numbers are matched, the new movement can be ordered. The new movement will be the exact same and not a knock off. Therefore all of your existing clock components will fit just the same a it did.
As discussed in a different section, the new movement is the way to go without a doubt. The new unit is a fraction of the price of an overhaul on the old one. You will have the clock back and running in the shortest time instead of waiting months and sometimes years for the overhaul to be completed. The movement will last another 30 years without much complaint, you cant say this about an old one that was restored.
Mechanical Clock Movement Issues
Mechanical Clock Movement Issues arise after years go by because the oil turns solid. With age, the mechanical clock movement's oil solidifies and becomes black and sticky. By the time 20 or 30 years go by, the oil has solidified and is creating wear on the movements brass plates.
If you look at your old clock movement, you will see holes in the brass plates where there are small pivot arbors sticking into these holes. These pivots are what the gears of the clock ride upon and as the pivots spin in the solidified oil, this makes the holes oblong instead of round. With the pivot holes oblong, the holes are pinching the pivots and creating resistance in the gear train. With the solidified oil and the pinched pivots, the clock will eventually stop working or chiming.
This wear takes place in the holes that are in the brass plates and is hard to identify sometimes. These holes in the brass plates become oblong instead of round and this pinches the pivot arbor going into it. Between this, and the solid oil, the clock ceases to function. To have this repaired is an expensive and long process. To have a mechanical movement serviced can cost two times as much or even three times the amount of the new one.
New Mechanical Movement Reasons
New Mechanical Movement Reasons to get the new one when we can just repair the old one? The reason is because it is still in production. Its still made in mass production in Germany, so this means its available for a lot less cost. Even the best repair job from the best repair professional, cannot make it as good as a new one.
New Mechanical Movement Reasons are because it can ship from USA the same day you order it. The time it takes you to get you're clock up and running is very short. A repair can usually take months and then you are still left with a used overhauled movement rather than a new one.
When you receive a new movement it is the same as you're old movement. All clock component parts such as weights will fit on to the new movement. The cost of a new movement is less and when it's installed it should last another 25-30 years without intense service. Over the years, if there is improvements that can be done on the movement, the factory updates them. We here at Clockworks offer only the highest grade mechanical clock movements and they come with a 2 year warranty.
The new unit will cost less and ship now. It will be far better in every way than getting the old one restored. You will have a new movement in days instead of the used one back in months.
Hermle Clock Movement Aliases
Hermle produced clock movements and used aliases for names in a way. The movement could be stamped many names but really it will be made by Hermle. Some companies bought so many they were able to get there name on the movement instead of Hermle. The following is only a partial list of names that could be on the clock movement.
The best disguised Aliases
Seth Thomas also Mason and Sullivan had not only there name, also there own internal numbering system. This was stamped on the movement, instead of the Hermle number. Since it is not a Hermle number, the number would need to be converted to what the real number is . This is done with the Mason and Sullivan chart, or the Seth Thomas conversion Chart. However the Seth Thomas chart is not very accurate, please see instructions on that page.
It is best to replace the clock movement if either of these names are on the movement automatically. You do not have to think and decide if repair is better, the answer is a simple no. These companies went out of business long ago and the unit is over its lifetime. The lifetime is 25 - 30 years before it needs an overhaul or replacement. Both ST and Mason Sullivan on the movement would indicate the clock is about 40 years old.
The other Hermle Clock Movement Aliases are easy
Hermle Clock Movement Aliases on other clocks used only their name, and not there own internal numbering system on the Hermle movements. So basically if the clock is of post war German origin you can just look at the number and forget the name. The numbers will indicate what movement it is. If it is a Hermle movement its 3 or 4 digits followed by a hyphen, and then 3 more digits. Like this 1161-853 or 340-020 or 351-060. If the numbers look like this it is made by Hermle.
Other Names Used
- S. Larose
- Mason & Sullivan
- Tally Industries
- Seth Thomas
- Howard Miller
Hermle Number Examples
Below are some typical examples of the Hermle clock movement numbering system. If your clock numbers are similar to this, its made by Hermle.
- 451-050 94cm
- 451-030 66cm
- 341-020 45cm
- 1151-050 114cm
- 451-053 94cm
- 1161-853 114cm
- 141-070 45cm
- 351-050 55cm
- 1161-850 94cm
- 241-070 94cm
Selecting the 1171 Hermle Clock Movement
The numbers on the back plate of the 1171 Hermle Clock Movement is everything one needs to get a replacement. If the numbers match then the movement matches.
Be sure to select the proper CM length that matches the old unit.
- 94, 114CM Pendulum
- Hand shaft 53.2mm
- Brand New and Original
- Chain or Cable Driven
- Triple Chime
- Autonight Shutoff
- A fraction of the price of an overhaul
- Should last 25-30 years, an overhaul would not
- Instructions and expert support
- Hermle Clock Movement of Germany
- 1171 Hermle Clock Movement
1171-050 Hermle Clock Movement
The Hermle clock movement 1171-050 is a Triple Chime unit with 12 hammers on the back. This high quality German movement comes pre oiled and includes its chains, leader, suspension spring and hand nut.
The Hermle 1171 clock movement is a triple chime chain driven unit with three weights. This is a rectangle shaped movement with the movement plate size of 152 x 220mm and takes a size #8 crank (If cable). What is being offered on this page is the movement only with out the pendulum, gong or dial. These movement come as the movement itself with new chains / cables and pulleys, hand nut, suspension spring and leader.
Ordering a Hermle Clock Movement
The movement numbers off of the Hermle clock movement are needed when ordering. The numbers are matched up and it will be the exact same movement as the old one. Replacing the movement is a fraction of the price of a repair, and the clock will be up and working the fastest way.
Clock movement removal and installation
Removing and the installing the clock movement only requires the most basic tools. If you can change the spark plug on your lawn mower this will be a breeze. All the Hermle clock movements are in stock and can ship immediately. We are full time clock makers and retailers both, so if you need any assistance please ask. This goes for the installation or ordering a Hermle clock movement, if you need help please let us know.
Matching the CM when ordering
This note is only if your ordering a movement that has a pendulum. You will need to match up your CM length from the back plate of your old unit to the new one. The options indicated all that is available by stock. If there is a CM number you need but is not listed we can still create it most likely by changing some gears. If this is the situation please just give us a call 800 381 7458. There is an extra fee for the regearing of the movement. Usually this fee is $30 to $40 additional.
Replacing a movement is less costly than a overhaul. These movements last 25 years before needing an over haul, but since its still being made at a fair price it is so much better just to replace. The clock will be problem free right away instead of months, last longer than a overhaul and comes oiled.
Hermle Clock Movement Directory, Number starts with.....
Hermle Clock Movement Directory Explanation
Hermle Clock Movement Directory is to get to the correct page that contains your clock movement. The Hermle mechanical movements have numbers on the back plate starting with the below few numbers, and then followed by a - dash and then some more numbers. Examples = 340-020 131-070 1161-853 351-020 and similar. So if your clock says something like 1161-053 you would drop the second half and click the 1161 button below. This will bring you to the page where 1161-053 and the rest of the 1161 series resides.
If Not Listed
If your Hermle movement is not found on these pages we may still have it as a conversion or we maybe able to create it out of what exists. Please email your movement number or a picture of the back plate to [email protected] If your movement numbers do not look like the Hermle movement numbers as described it maybe made by someone else. The mechanical movement identification page will assist you with determining who made the clock. This is for post WW2 modern mechanical clock movements made in Germany only however.