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Identifying a Mechanical Clock Movement

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Identifying a mechanical clock movement

To get anything for a clock movement from Clockworks we first need to identify the mechanical clock movement. This is done by decoding the identification markings on the back plate of the movement itself. By knowing what the movement is, it can be replaced with a new mechanical clock movement.

Purchase parts such as a pendulum. It is very difficult to provide a pendulum or a dial to a movement without knowing what it is.

 

Where to get the identification information for my clock

The movement alone is what we need to identify. Once the identity is known, it is easy to know what other parts compliment that movement. The markings on the clock movement itself is what we need. In essence, the movement number is the DNA of the clock when it comes to Identifying a mechanical clock movement.

It tells us all the information about the movement. All of the parts work together, so with the movement number we can recommend other parts.

 

 

What is not used for Identifying a mechanical clock movement

The paperwork or manuals that come with the clock upon purchasing does us no good. It has no bearing in the identification process. Neither does any of the stickers on the clock case. The reason being the clock case maker is not the same as the movement maker usually.

In a typical modern post WW2 clock, such as a grandfather clock, it is possible to have a different maker for each of the components. In other words, the dial can be by one maker and the pendulum by another.

The identity of the clock movement itself is what needs to be known in order to get a replacement. This is true for any of the other items such as the dial. So the identification is all about the clock movement only.

 

 

Confirm the country of origin

The country of origin will eliminate many possibilities for the manufacturer of the movement. Look at the back plate of the movement. If the mechanical movement has a stamp of Germany, the availability for a replacement is quite high and we can help with a new one.

 

 

If it is not made in Germany

The majority of clocks after WW2 are German with the exception of 31 day China and Korean units. Thus, if the clock was made after WW2 and is not a 31 day then it is most likely German. If the clock is made in any other country besides Germany things are not as easy.

If the movement has a stamp from another country, please email pictures of the movement. We can offer a repair or replacement parts. If a German unit, need the numbers off of the back plate of the movement itself. It will be right off the brass back plate.

 

 

The German identifying markings

This is not always easy to get to. Sometimes the clock case has side access panels that come off. It is also possible to stick a cell phone up in the clock case to take a picture. Others ways include a mirror and a flashlight. The point being, we need those numbers.

Often the movement numbers will be on the lower right of the back plate of the movement. Very few clocks have the identification information on the front plate. Only some antique American units have this type of information on the front plate instead of the back.

 

 

The German ID will allow us to do some things

The movement number on the back plate provides all the information about the clock. Although it may not say the manufacturer on the movement, the numbers will give this information.

The movement number usually tells us the way the clock chimes, the location of the chime hammers, if it’s weight or spring driven and much more. When the movement number is known, a replacement can be ordered and it will be the same movement as the old one.

Usually all the old parts such as the clock weights, pendulum and hands will work with the new movement. This is because the new one will be the exact same thing as the old movement.

This is why it is important that the movement number is the first thing that needs to be known. Everything revolves around that number. Of course, this will always be the first question that we ask if someone needs a replacement movement.

So if calling or emailing be sure to have this number ready. We will not be able to help without it, or at least a picture.

 

mechanical clock movement identification

Now done with Identifying a mechanical clock movement

Use the examples to narrow down the manufacturer of the movement. Go to that Clockworks web page to order the movement. The picture might not look the same as the movement. Do not worry if the picture is not exactly the same as the old movement.

Matching the mechanical clock movement number is what makes the difference. If the old movement number matches the one on the list, then you will get that same movement. If there is any question, send an email so we can clarify things.

It is better to ask a question than to not get the right item when Identifying a mechanical clock movement.

 


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Diane Utecht
9 months ago

Antique bronze clock with cherbs & and angel sitting on top with ugly intricate fish on lower clock harp on top in angel’s hands & D9 ON BACK OF CLOCK .HELP

George Howard
George Howard
9 months ago

I have a J E Caldwell grandfathers click clock which has stopped working. There is no number on the pendulum or inside the case. The number 381 is stamped into the back of the cabinet. Does that tell me something or do I look elsewhere for a number to id the clock so I can determine what is needed for repair?

Diane
Diane
11 months ago

Hi, I have a 31″ wall clock that has these markings on the back: 49367 <next line> 12 <next line> N (or a sideways Z). Any clues on the maker?

David Brandon
David Brandon
1 year ago

I have a clock that has the numbers 4222 engraved on front and back plate. It is an old wall clock with two weights. There are no other markings. Any idea what the country of origin is or the manufacturer? Thanks. David Brandon

Mike lange
Mike lange
1 year ago

How do you date a kuempel tall case clock

Miriam Kelly
Miriam Kelly
1 year ago

I own a Rapport quartz pendulum clock. It was my Mums so holds sentimental value. The pendulum stops, I have tried everything. I think it needs a complete new unit in it. But, I cannot find any numbers inside at all. All it says is Germany. Can you help me. Any help would be appreciated. Miriam.

Ray Hanson
Ray Hanson
1 year ago

I have a Howard Miller model 4878 It was my uncles he passed and i have the clock. I found the Pendulum spring to be broken I found 2 # stamped on the movement one is 352995 and the other is UW.32/1A I cant find any info on which spring I need. I hope you can help. Thank You in advance

terry carpenter
terry carpenter
2 years ago

hi can you give me any information on this movement please
the number is 289555

Eric G.
Eric G.
2 years ago

I have a clock that says Davis Germany with the number 76 over the top of Davis Germany..No (can’t tell if it’s a d or a 0 ) 101 jewels made in West Germany unadjusted 351-031…34 cm 114.07 …what year was it made ?

John Stevenson
John Stevenson
2 years ago

Trying to fix a cheap Chevy clock that my old boss left me. Has a Shinfuku motor with lot number 91361, tried to match it up by looks but everything I can find has brass threads on the bottom of the post sticking out of the motor. This mechanism has a gear at the bottom. The gear turns but the post does not.

taberautomotive
taberautomotive
2 years ago

Needing a suspension spring for German made movement …..numbers on rear plate are 77 574….. and 280512

Timothy Brown
2 years ago
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This is the number on the movement. Is there anyone who can give me any information from this number? Thanks so much in advance.

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Timothy Brown
2 years ago
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I’m Thinking of buying a clock of which I know nothing about. It has the numbers 129/33230 on the back. I don’t know what the numbers mean. There is no manufacturers name on it. If anyone can give me an idea of what I’m looking at can you let me know?

Timothy Brown
2 years ago

It has crossed arrows on the face. Is it an authentic HAC?

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Stephen Eldridge
Stephen Eldridge
2 years ago

I have a very large and heavy movement that came with an oak case that says it is a Seth Thomas on its face Any. The clock is an oak mechanical wall clock case and I am not convinced it is a Seth Thomas. The movement has several numbers on the rear brass plate. The large number is 63365 with a smaller number 037 which could be the pendulum length. To the left of the plate the number 100. I was not able to find thaat number under Seth Thomas.The pendulum was lost in a move but I have the all the parts except the wood stem.I would like to identify the movement and the clock. I have seen this same oak case that came out of an old school that was electric and used to ring the bells for the class changes. It also had a complete pendulum. The clock face says it is from Standard Electric. Any help would be appreciated.
Steve

Lynwood Lee Massengill
Lynwood Lee Massengill
2 years ago

Numbers on back of German Grandfather clock UW 3/12. A and 79663. What is the year and any info would be helpful. Thanks

Lynwood Lee Massengill
Lynwood Lee Massengill
2 years ago

Thanks

Paul Lucas
Paul Lucas
2 years ago

Please identify this movement: UW 6/87 A …. 491912

Paul Lucas
Paul Lucas
2 years ago

Thank you James

Ed Winkler
Ed Winkler
2 years ago

I have an LFS grandfather clock that has been in my family for several generations from Germany. Serial number on the clockworks is 5142 with the LFS stamp. How can I find out when, at least the movement, was made? I can’t say that it’s the original case, but I believe that it is. Lastly, if you have any background information on clocks like this made by LFS, I appreciate it. Any books available on Lorenz Furtwangler & Sohne that I could be pointed towards?

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Ed Winkler
Ed Winkler
2 years ago

My works is the same as the image in both of the pics posted by davenny 6 months ago in this thread. I’ll see If I can’t cant some additional pics today and post.

Dave Winton
Dave Winton
2 years ago

I have a small AA battery powered quartz clock movement with A410-IHR on the circuit board. It has push on clock hands, no threads, Any ideas?

John Scudiere
John Scudiere
2 years ago

I have a Ridgeway wall clock. The numbers inside are as follows:
URGOS Made in Germany
26290
UW 6/68 A
Where can I get a replacement movement?

Bruce Stewart
Bruce Stewart
2 years ago

I need to replace the Keinzle Quartz movement in my marine clock. I have searched for a movement number but can find none. How do I order a replacement movement? Photo attached.

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Wally
Wally
2 years ago

what can replace the 341-020-45CM 101.778 with

davenny
2 years ago

Can you identify the maker of this clock mechanism? Looks like the initials are LFS inside a round sawblade. The numbers under it are 9860. The picture is backward as I took it with a mirror. Thank you

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Ed Winkler
Ed Winkler
2 years ago

That is a clock made by Lorenz Furtwangler & Sohne. https://oldclockinfo.com/lfs-lorenz-furtwangler-sohne/

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ro sars
ro sars
2 years ago

Thanks, I hope this helps. Please let me know if you need more pics from me. Thanks do much.

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davenny
2 years ago

The movement is from a large wall clock with pendulum and 2 wind up holes.

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Ed Winkler
Ed Winkler
2 years ago
Reply to  davenny

This is exactly what the clockworks on my grandfather clock look like…see my reply and pic in this thread.

davenny
2 years ago

The numbers are 9860. The picture is backward as it was taken with a mirror. Thank you

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Wally
Wally
2 years ago

Howard miller 641-020-45cm 101.887 what else can i use

Richard
Richard
2 years ago

Hello, I bought an old mantel clock at a flea market and I am considering replacing the movement as the chime spring is broken. The seller told me he thought it was a 1930’s era Seth Thomas. It is a 2 arbor, 1/2 hour chime. I took the movement out and looked it over for identifiers. There are only 2 numbers stamped on it. There is a number 12 in the bottom right corner of the brass plate and there is a number 116 in the middle bottom where the pendulum swings. What do those numbers mean, and are they enough to be able to order a new movement?

Bruce Culver
Bruce Culver
2 years ago

My movement is marked A403-007. 7613 what does it mean?

Gary D. Street
Gary D. Street
2 years ago

My grand father clock has brass gears with a wooden frame to hold the gears in place.

Gary D. Street
Gary D. Street
2 years ago

How old is my grand father clock it body is solid oak, has a wooden painted dial face, two 4.5 lb weights, brass gears held to together by a wooden frame.

Grahame Barnes
Grahame Barnes
3 years ago

Please could someone help me out, by identifying this movement. It’s certainly not the original for this clock, but dispite the dust and WD 40 it seems to run, albe it too fast.

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George Eldridge
George Eldridge
3 years ago

I have what I beliebe to be a quite old 800m x 270mm x 115mm wall clock ( a sort of small size grandfather clock!!). At the top of the wooden pendulum is stamped the number 32486 and on the rear of the face itself is stamped 32487.I would be so grateful i you might helpe with what the numbers may mean and if that gives a clue to the age of the clock. Many thanks in advance

James Womack Jr
James Womack Jr
3 years ago

I have come across a naval battery-operated striking bell movement but can find no information on it. It seems to work most of the time and strikes 1 – 8 bells on the hour and half hour (then it stops working after about 24 hours). So, what I would like to do is find out information on it and then find someone who can work on it.

William schantz
3 years ago

I have a h261-030 movement what weights do I need

Brandon Hale
Brandon Hale
3 years ago

I have Junghans movement W777 and I need a pendulum. The numbers on the top left corner are 141/36 over 200. I think the 200 is the pendulum length in CM the others are beat and number of teeth. But I am not sure. Could you help me out…it was my Grandmothers and believe it was from the 60s…. Thanks Brandon

Duane Schwartz
Duane Schwartz
3 years ago

I recently inherited a grandfather clock from my dad when he passed. There are a few parts missing and I’d like to get the movement ID’d to see if I can purchase the parts to get it running. The stamping on the back plate says Gravely Furn. Made in Martinsville VA. It also has 85cm listed with the words unadjusted. Also on the backplate in a different area it has the #3659 stamped. Im hoping you can help me.

Thank you

Duane Schwartz
Duane Schwartz
3 years ago

I recently inherited a grandfather clock from my dad when he passed. There are a few parts missing and I’d like to get the movement ID’d to see if I can purchase the parts to get it running. The stamping on the back plate says Gravely Furn. Made in Martinsville VA. It also has 85cm listed with the words unadjusted. Also on the backplate in a different area it has the #3659 stamped. Im hoping you can help me.

Thank you

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Jim
Jim
5 years ago

I have an old banjo clock (purchased in the US) with no maker identification. The only identification I can find is the number 314 stamped on the movement. There are no other markings. I just need to identify the movement to order parts. Thanks.

Frank A Kinard
Frank A Kinard
5 years ago

Looking for the lead flert on a Junghans 160 clock. The one that uses the cam on the hour shaft to moves the other chime flert.