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Replacing Lost Pendulum Parts
By and large, replacing a lost pendulum part from its assembly is a process. It is more in depth than just matching up the broken pendulum part.
Certainly, narrowing it down requires a different method than just observation. The following text will guide you through that process.
The lost pendulum
First, identify the movement manufacturer. This is the beginning step to identify a lost clock pendulum. This is done by getting the movement numbers off of the back plate of the movement itself.
That is to say, it will not be in the manual that came with the clock. Moreover it will also not be on any stickers or the clock case.
Match the movement number here to find out who made the movement. Finally, proceed to the pendulum page. This is the first step in replacing a lost pendulum as well as replacing lost pendulum parts.
Lost pendulum leader
The leader hooks to the suspension spring. The suspension spring is at the top of the movement. The pendulum hangs onto the leader.
All, or some, of these parts are what you need to order to replace lost pendulum parts. Again, the order of the parts is the suspension spring, the leader, then the pendulum.
If the leader is missing, identify who made the movement. Use the above information to correctly identify the movement so it is possible to replace the pendulum part.
When you know who made the movement, it is easy to narrow down the possibility of what leader you need. This makes things much easier when replacing lost pendulum parts.
After knowing the manufacturer, match the information to a leader shown on this page.
In the final analysis, visually inspect the pendulum hook style, the crutch on the back of the movement, and the suspension hook.
Finally, compare the components of the clock to the options in that manufacturer category to figure out the best one. Replacing lost pendulum part can be tricky however with these descriptions the task should be less daunting.
The lost suspension spring
First know that style A is the very most common suspension spring style in existence. Check the top of the pendulum leader and if there is a double hook on the end it will be style A required for the clock.
Generally speaking, use style A3 for large grandfather units, A2 for grandmother and wall clocks, and A1 for mantle clocks. Suspension spring are one of the easier parts to ascertain when replacing lost pendulum parts.
I have a Howard Miller grand farther clock P/N 852255 and need a suspension spring an a pendulum leader. Are these parts available at clockworks?
Yes but need the movement numbers please
What are the numbers off of the back plate of the clock movement itself? If it is hard to get to, usually you can stick a cell phone up behind the movement and get a picture of the numbers. Or through the side access panel if there is one.
Not off the paper work, not off the wooden case, but the movement stamp itself
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Looking for a lead hanger for a Howard Miller model 610-199
What are the numbers off of the back plate of the clock movement itself? If it is hard to get to, usually you can stick a cell phone up behind the movement and get a picture of the numbers. Or through the side access panel if there is one.
Not off the paper work, not off the wooden case, but the movement stamp itself
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have a Howard Miller grandfather clock, model 610-202, with a Urgos UW 32562C movement and lyre pendulum. We are missing the rating nut. Do you happen to know the correct rating nut part?
Usually solves =
https://www.clockworks.com/product/clock-rating-nut-for-lyre-pendulums
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I need to replace the Pendulum Leader for a Rideway Model 114, Serial #11/6/81, grandfather clock. I cannot find one. Any help is appreciated.
What are the numbers off of the back plate of the clock movement itself? If it is hard to get to, usually you can stick a cell phone up behind the movement and get a picture of the numbers. Or through the side access panel if there is one.
Not off the paper work, not off the wooden case, but the movement stamp itself
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I am building a shaker-style coffin wall clock. What would be the best movement and Pendulum to put inside? Plans say that the Pendulum is 20 1/4 inches long.
Maybe this simple spring driven bell top unit
https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-141-080-clock-movement-by-hermle
Simple, chain driven, can make the pendulum 38cm from the TOP of the movement and all the way down the pendulum (15 inches)
We can regear the movement for an extra $100 to be whatever length you would like.
Build off this one ?
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I bought second hand quartz mantle clock (I believe its French) but it has no pendulum can you buy a replacment.
Sorry do not have it
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Hello! I purchased a used Howard Miller Clock that came without a pendulum. The model number is 611-001. Can you help me identify what kind of replacement pendulum I would need? I’m attaching a photo of the pendulum lead for reference.
What CM number does this say
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Hello,
I inherited a very old (late 1700s) long case clock and during shipment one of the weights and the pendulum have gone missing. I think I can find a replacement for the weight, but I don’t know where to start with the pendulum since I have no idea how long it was or what kind of attachment mechanism was used. I can’t find any markings on the backplate. I’m attaching a photo of the suspension hook. I can also furnish.photos of the clock and the movement if that helps. Any ideas on finding or fabricating a replacement pendulum (and leader if required)?
Thanks!
Whatever it is it is required in parts for that clock movement is no longer made or available.
Something custom would be made or modification to that what does exist. Or we would need to match it up to one of our own parts units.
If you would like to send it in for restoration, we could figure it all out here, along with the restoration process.
Are you interested in sending the movement only?
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Thanks, James. I’m waiting to see if the moving and storage company in the US can find it. I live in France, so if I were to send it in I’d have to see about removing the movement without damaging the clock. I’ll let you know.
Hello James,
The moving and storage company found the pendulum and sent it to me. However, the suspension spring is snapped in half and will need to be replaced. The original spring has an overall length of 5″ with a 6-32 thread for the pendulum rod. It looks very much like your standard Tall Case Clock Suspension Spring, but is shorter and has a different thread.
Would you be able to supply a matching suspension spring? If so, at what cost, including shipping to France?
I will also need a Clock Case Eagle Filiale for the top of the clock, which also went missing. What would be the shipping cost for that?
Thanks for your help
We would need the old suspension here with us to duplicate, and an old pic of the eagle if you have one.
I do not know what shipping would be, these things will have to be quoted along with shipping back once we have this.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I’m looking for a replacement for my Howard Miller Pendulum Hook- Clock style is called “The McCarthy“
What are the numbers off of the back plate of the clock movement itself? If it is hard to get to, usually you can stick a cell phone up behind the movement and get a picture of the numbers. Or through the side access panel if there is one.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Model # 610-695
Serial # 627 40 149
Need Numbers off of the back plate of the clock movement itself, no paperwork, no stickers. If it is hard to get to, usually you can stick a cell phone up behind the movement and get a picture of the numbers. Or through the side access panel if there is one.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
When our Westminster Grandfather clock with an Urgos movement was moved by movers, the pendulum top hook was lost. I received my new Urgos top hook (order 332674) and instructions say to push it onto the pendulum stick and crimp the sides of the top hook around the stick. The question I have is about which way the top hook should be mounted on the stick. It can be put on the stick two different ways (180 degrees). The hook has an offset, which makes a difference how you mount the hook to how it will hang. Should the crimp part of the hook (part you bend) face the back of the clock or front? Thank you, Mark
Front of the top hook goes on the side of the stick the shiny side of the bob is on
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Was directed here so thought to ask, I have a pearl from 1984, Looks like the one i will link below from a ebay ad. I have the sping and leader but the rod is missing and the bob was spilt in two by someone.
Pearl Grandfather Clock | eBay
This is the old style leader for that
https://www.clockworks.com/product/hermle-clock-pendulum-leader-4-3-8-long
This is the new style leader
https://www.clockworks.com/product/hermle-clock-pendulum-leader-5-1-2-inch
Suspension spring is A3 if the bob is 6 1/2 inches or wider
https://www.clockworks.com/product/clock-pendulum-suspension-springs-assortment
Suspension spring A2 if the bob is less than 6 1/2 wide
https://www.clockworks.com/product/clock-pendulum-suspension-springs-assortment
Top hook for the wood stick pendulum if you need it, it is the 3/4 inch wide one
https://www.clockworks.com/product/hermle-clock-movement-top-hook
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Hello, I own a moving company and we lost the pendulums to a grandmother clock and a mantle clock. I have more pictures that I can send. It would only allow me to attach one picture. Can you help in finding replacements?
What are the numbers off of the back plate of the clock movement itself? If it is hard to get to, usually you can stick a cell phone up behind the movement and get a picture of the numbers. Or through the side access panel if there is one.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Here is another pic
Hard to see
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Thanks James. Here you are. I have another picture as well
What are the numbers off of the back plate of the clock movement itself? If it is hard to get to, usually you can stick a cell phone up behind the movement and get a picture of the numbers. Or through the side access panel if there is one.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Hey James, I’m still needing help with this. The numbers on the back plate are:350754 and UW3271A. Does this help?
Please order a pendulum for as Urgos 100cm movement from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw-urgos-stick-clock-pendulum
or
https://www.clockworks.com/product/urgos-uw-lyre-style-clock-pendulum
You would need to select a bob diameter that is 4 inches smaller than the inside width of the clock case.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Thanks James. Just to confirm, the inside with is 11 5/16″ So should I order the 7 1/8″ bob or the 3 1/2″ bob?
6 1/2 inch bob or less for that
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I am searching for a replacement pendulum for a Howard Miller grandfather clock model 610-159.
Hi,
What are the numbers off of the back plate of the clock movement itself? If it is hard to get to, usually you can stick a cell phone up behind the movement and get a picture of the numbers. Or through the side access panel if there is one.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Perfect, i will be getting a replacement from you guys very soon thanks.
I have an old mantle clock. The numbers on the plate are 12 CM and 196. I’m including two photos. I don’t see any other identifier.
Hi,
Sorry to say that one is no longer available new. We can overhaul this one if you like, we only need the movement alone sent in. We can tell you how to remove it and reinstall it, help you along the way. When its done and installed it will run for years.
We start with this =
CLEANING AND OILING FOR ONLY $150
We have the best and most expensive tooling, cleaning equipment, and cleaning solutions. There is no expense spared by us when it comes to having the best equipment. With this factor and 3 generations of clock repair expertise, you can rest assure your clock works will be in the best hands it can be in.
For this unit, we will take the movement in, unpack it, and then clean it and inspect it for $150. If it passes inspection, we will oil it and test it. If this is all that is needed that is all it will cost is the $150 plus the shipping back to you. The initial $150 is non refundable and is the fee for the cleaning, inspection, and oiling and testing only. We do need to be paid for our time on this even if the clock movement is deemed unrepairable for some reason.
Please let us know if you are interested in this service by filling out the repair form at this link, https://www.clockworks.com/clock-repair-service.html because it would be an absolute pleasure to get this one shiny and working again.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
It’s does not need anything except a replacement bob. I just don’t know what part to order. What’s the make of my clock?
What are the movement numbers off of that one? Also, how wide is the inside of the clock case where the pendulum will swing? Is it a brass pendulum or the wood stick style?
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Missing part that connects suspension spring to pendulum.
Suspension spring B
Pendulum most resembles Kieninger
That would be the leader.
You can order your leader here: https://www.clockworks.com/?post_type=product&s=Leader
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
That would be a leader: https://www.clockworks.com/?post_type=product&s=Leader
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Hello, I am so appreciative of you’re willingness to take time to read emails and see if you can help me. I read your pages first to see if anything looked like it could apply and help me, but I don’t think it can.
The mantle clock I have I bought at an an auction in the UK when we were stationed there in 1985. It was old then. I was TOLD by a clock person here in the states who cleaned for me in 1990 that it was a Westminster chimer. Being in the military we have moved several times. We have since retired. The clock has been packed and put away as my daughter wants it. I noticed when I got it down for her the key was wrapped and stuffed in the back but the pendulum is gone. If I send you pictures, is there any way you might help me? There are numbers on the plate in the same place as the others you showed in your examples, just no name, and the numbers don’t match .
I would appreciate any help or advice you could give me.
Thank you!
Julie Vaught
[email protected]
435-2755129
Best to email some pics of this one to clockworks@clockworks.com with that same question and we shall see what we can do
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com