Kieninger RU Series clock movement
Kieninger RU Series clock movement
Kieninger RK clock movement
Kieninger RK clock movement
Kieninger RK clock movement
Kieninger RK clock movement

NEW RK Series Kieninger Clock Movement

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RK Series Kieninger Clock Movement

The RK Series Kieninger Clock Movement is a Westminster unit that is chain driven. Use this unit in both grandmother and grandfather floor clock models.

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Kieninger clock movement identification

The identification process is the first step to replace a Kieninger clock movement or any other components. To begin with, start with the movement number in order to purchase a new clock movement and to see the price and what it includes.

Also, these numbers are essential to get compatible components for the clock. Examples of some components include pendulums, dials, hands, keys, cranks, chime blocks, mounting screws, weights, pulleys or chains.

Decoding Kieninger clock movements

For example, let's say the movement numbers are 81 K 116cm.

  • 1981 = If it is an on older unit, the 81 would be the year it was made. On new units this number is not the year but only an internal engineering code.
  • K = The K is the movement series. This is the basic raw movement plate size and internal gear configuration.
  • 116CM = This is the pendulum length, in centimeters, from the top of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the rating nut. This is true only for the smallest 4 1/2 inch bob diameter.

Kieninger Clock Movement Identification

Dating the Kieninger movement

In the above description, 81 is the date, however this is not always true in later years. After a certain date that first number is no longer the date that it was made. Rather that first number became an engineering code that has nothing to do with the date.

So it may or may not be the date code, ignore this as it is not pertinent to replacing the unit. There is no longer a solid way to date the Kieninger clock movement unless there is a stamp on the back plate.

We can help

The new movement will fit into the clock case just as the old one did. Keep using the same components such as the dial, pendulum, chime block and weights.

If it is a weight driven clock it will come with the chime hammers as well as chains or cables. If this decoding process is confusing, just email the numbers or a picture to us. We are happy to help with figuring out the best course of action. Similarly, Kieninger clock movement questions and ordering can be done by phone as well.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2022

Kieninger Clock Movement Ordering

Kieninger clock movement ordering starts with the numbers off of the back plate of the clockworks. The numbers help us figure out the correct unit by plate size. After we get the plate size we narrow it down by attributes such as triple chime.

In other works all the units that have the letter K on the back will have the same plate size. After we determine we have a K series we select things like triple chime or Westminster only. If there are any other uncommon things after that we select it. Such as sequential or carousal or other special qualities such as this.

Steps to a new Kieninger clock movement

First go to the letter that is also on the stamp on the back plate of the movement only. If for example the movement number is 81 K 116cm ignore all but the K at first.

Find the K series on the Kieninger movement page at Clockworks.com. Then we can continue with matching up the CM in the drop down list.

Attribute selection

On that same drop down list with the CM list there are some other options usually. The options to select are the specific qualities the movement may or may not have on the movement. Such things as Westminster only or triple chime.

If there are dancers on the movement it may say carousel. Just pick the whatever movement you have that matches the options.

After ordering the Kieninger movement

After ordering the new Kieninger clock movement you will receive a receipt via email. The installation instructions will also be sent via a link on the receipt. Weight driven units will include chains or cables.

The new movement will ship the next business day by FedEx ground or Priority Mail.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2022

New Clock Movement Benefits

New clock movement benefits far outweigh the benefits of a restoration. This section will explain why that is and what the best course of action is to get your clock working.

Servicing the movement

Clocks need to have fresh oil after 10 years or so. Then, after 20 or 30 years, a full break down of the movement is necessary. This is all well and good and can be done with the old movement.

The movement will run for another 5 or 15 years with no issues but then it will be time to do it again. So obviously this is a new clock movement benefit.

Every time the movement needs to have work done on it or needs bushings, it will last less and less time before it needs attention again. So another new clock movement benefit is that this would not happen.

The repair process is expensive because it takes time to separate the plates, remove all the gears, do the necessary work, and then put them all back together again.

This process may need to be redone if not perfect the first time. The turn around time to complete an overhaul on a clock movement could be anywhere from 1 to 3 months, and in some extreme cases, a year.

It is a slow moving venture that costs twice as much as a new movement would. If a new clock movement is not available, then this is the best, and only, way to handle a clock repair.

Replacing with a new clock movement

If the clock movement is still in production, it is far better to just get the new clock movement. Mass production makes the movement so affordable it will cost a fraction of the price of the repair work.

The new clock movement will be the same one but brand new and ready to run 30 years without much complaint. There is absolutely no way to repair an old clock movement so that it is better than new.

Even the best clockmaker using the best equipment cannot make the clock movement better than a new one.

A new clock movement is a factory fresh restart. The clock will be like it was originally when you first made the purchase from the store. The new clock movement will be made by the same people, with the same machines, and the clock movement is the same.

It is not a close replica or made somewhere else besides Germany. It is the same movement. Not a knock off or replica. So wouldn't it make sense to get the new clock movement instead of chasing the old?

The choice is clear and obvious. The new movement will cost a fraction of the price and the clock is up and running in no time.

Movements That Would Need a Repair or an Overhaul

If a new clock movement is not possible, then a repair is most likely the only option. However we will try to convert it to a new clock movement that is close and easy to adapt.

If it is not an easy one to adapt, or would take too much case work, then the best solution is to have us work on it. Another clock movement to consider having restored instead of replacing it is the tubular bell, which is a high end movement.

The price of a tubular bell new clock movement makes an overhaul more attractive. This is due to the high price on the new clock movements which is over $1600.

Usually the price is less for the new unit but instead these new clock movements are more costly than the overhaul by Clockworks anyway.

We can charge a much lower amount for the complete overhaul on these units. Ultimately the choice is yours. There is a good argument in both directions that makes sense on these expensive new clock movements.

Clockworks = The best repair service

We would love to do the clock movement overhaul here at Clockworks and we do the best job. There are two ways to fix clocks; the easy way and the hard way. We only repair clock movements the hard way with no short cuts.

Even with new clock movements, we inspect them and make sure all is well before shipping them out. It is even more important for us to do your repair than another company because we do not go to your house. There is no one being intrusive in your home and possibly damaging your clock case.

The clock movement itself is the only item that gets sent to us. No components need to be sent since we have everything else here such as weights, dials and pendulums. It is a great advantage to have Clockworks work on your clock movement for this fact alone.

A clock supply depot such as us does not need to wait for parts. We possess everything we could possibly need to complete a thorough, professional clock repair right here. If a new clock movement is not possible, then this repair is your best and only option.

The new movement

New clock movement benefits usually do indeed outweigh the repair option. The movement will already have lubrication with clock oil so there is no need to oil it.

The new clock movement comes with cables and pulleys, or chains, the leader, and suspension spring.

This is everything that comes out when you remove the two screws that are under the clock movement, besides the dial and weights.

Once you get the hands and the clock dial out of the way (instructions are sent via email) it's only a matter of removing the two screws from underneath.

The new clock movement can then be put in by someone with experience in 10 or 15 minutes. A person with no experience will take longer, but the point is that it isn't hard to do. This is definitely a new clock movement benefit.

There are some instances where a clock case was made in an annoying way that makes it more difficult, but for clock movements that were in a mass production this is not the situation. This relates more to a few individual clockmakers who's design of the case makes it more tricky to get the new clock movement in or out.

Summary of New Clock Movement Benefits

A new clock movement is typically less than half the cost of an overhaul.

It will also be on its way to the customer instantly instead of months later. A new clock movement will last the longest of any other choice.

The content of this website is copyright by Clockworks and written by James Stoudenmire in year 2022

RK Series Kieninger Clock Movement

RK Series Kieninger Clock Movements come with hand shafts measuring either 48mm or 36mm in length. This measurement starts from the movement's front plate and extends all the way to the end of the minute hand nut threads.

The 36mm hand shaft, about 1 1/4 inches, and the 48mm hand shaft, almost 2 inches, offer a significant length difference. Both Grandmother and Grandfather floor clocks, operating on a chain-driven Westminster chime system, can utilize either shaft length.

Why a new RK Kieninger movement

Swapping out your clock movement is a more budget-friendly option than a complete overhaul. The RK Series Kieninger movement boasts a lifespan of 25 years before requiring service, but since it's readily available at a reasonable price, replacing it becomes the smarter choice.

So skip the lengthy overhaul process and jump straight to reliable timekeeping. This new movement offers a longer lifespan than overhauls and comes conveniently with oil for optimal performance.

RK30 conversion (93cm with 36mm hand shaft)

The RK30 is no longer made or available. The RK30 is chain driven, Westminster only, 36mm hand shaft, with 93cm, R or RK stamp on the back plate. The replacement is an SKO Kieninger movement. This comes with a new leader, 1/8 inch movement shims, and longer seat board screws.

As the hand shaft is in a lower position, the shims with the new screws will go under the new movement. This allows it to get to the hand shaft where it always was with the RK30.

One thing to note about this conversion is that is does not have the dial feet that lock into the movement. So if your old dial had this capability, this one will not. Due to the different movement plate sizes the feet will not lock into the new movement like it did in the past.

There is a 50 / 50 chance if the old clock dial had the four feet to lock into the movement. Many are not made like this. So if the dial had the feet on the back, this will have to change.

Bend the dial feet over to snap them off. Then, drill small holes in the corners of the dial and use small wood screws to attach it to the wood trim.

So orders for the 93cm movement with the 36mm hand shaft include the conversion kit described, not the original movement.

Noting the differences

THe kit solves the following differences. The Handshaft slightley lower than the new. New movement has a longer suspension post. The new movement has a crutch and verge that is shorter in length than the old one.

The new movement has a second hand option whereas the old one does not. The old to new leaders are not compatible. So this may require a new top hook for the current wood stick pendulum. The old hands may not work with the new movement.

To address these challenges, this conversion kit includes new hands, a new pendulum top hook, shims for raising the movement, and a new leader. This combination solves all compatibility issues and has proven successful in achieving numerous perfect conversions.

What the RK Series Kieninger Clock comes with

This high quality RK Series Kieninger clock movement comes with oil in key areas. And it also includes the chains, leader, suspension spring and hand nut.

Your new movement includes easy-to-follow removal and installation instructions, and our friendly support team is available if you need any assistance.

Kieninger movement decoding

An older Kieninger clock movement will have the date first, then the series "R" and then the CM length on the back plate of the movement. For example, 83 RK 116CM. However the first number on it in the later years was no longer a date code and more of an internal code for the factory.

Movement removal and installation

Our clear instructions will walk you through the process step-by-step. Don't wait another minute - this RK Series Kieninger is in stock and ships today! Plus, our team of expert clockmakers is here to support you if you need any help along the way.

Obsolete 93cm and 36mm hand shaft unit alternatives

The Kieninger RK series is no longer available with the 36mm hand shaft length and 93cm pendulum length. Unfortunately, these items are currently out of production and no stock is available within the country. However, we have some alternative options in the list below.

RK with 48mm hand shaft and 93cm (RK034)

This is the same unit but with a longer hand shaft length. This is the part that the hands go on. It will be 12mm longer than the 36mm hand shaft unit. Thus making it 48mm long.

Dial modification and mounting method

The dial attaches to the wood case instead of the movement itself. This is what needs to be done if the old movement had the four locking posts.

Remove these posts by bending them over and snapping them off. Then, drill four small holes in the corners of the dial, and use small wood screws to attach it to the dial wood trim from the back side.

The movement needs to be further back in the clock case towards the chime block. Sometimes the chime block is on a spacer block that can be taken out. The other option is to get a smaller block.

Also the hammers are to be bent back on the movement itself. And if this is extreme in the current situation, the new one may be good where it currently mounts.

RK with 36mm and 80cm (RK014)

Use a shorter pendulum length unit by cutting down the current pendulum by 13cm. Or, we can restore the old unit instead.

Note

Measure the hand shaft from the front plate of the movement all the way out to the end of the minute hand nut threads. Pendulum length is approximate. To measure it, start at the top of the movement and extend the tape measure all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads.

Additional information

Weight4 lbs
CM Length

80cm, 93cm, 116cm, 93cm, 116cm

Hand Shaft Length

36mm, 48mm

Kieninger Movement RK Series

  • Pendulum Unit
  • 8 Hammer back
  • German Made
  • Same Day Shipping
  • Factory Oiled

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Glenn Pantel
Glenn Pantel
1 month ago

My spouse has an Interlock Belgium grandfather clock which was purchased in Germany in the late 1980’s to early 1990’s. It is fitted with a Kieninger movement, 04 R 116cm. It has been sitting not running for a while, and we are bringing it back to life now. We have the clock running and keeping time, but have been unsuccessful with the chimes and hour strike. I have a concern about the weights though. We weighed the three weights as follows: left=6.75 #, center=8.25#, and right=6.75#. All of the literature I have looked at seems to indicate that the heaviest weight is supposed to be on the right. The left and right weights have a round eyelet on top and a hook on their associated chain. The center weight has the hook on the weight, and the eyelet on the chain. Hence, weight placement should be a no-brainer. Is there ever an instance where the heaviest weight is in the center? As far as we know, nothing has ever been altered with the weight configuration. Does this configuration sound correct? Also, is there anything we can check as to why yhe chimes.strike are not triggering? Thanks.

Glenn Pantel
Glenn Pantel
1 month ago

The pendulum bob measures 10.75 inches diameter. Based on that, in what order would our weights need to be placed? Again, the clock has two 6.75 pound weights and one 8.25 pounds. Once the weight configuration is resolved, I will check the recommendatio ns from your previous reply. Thanks.

Dana
Dana
3 months ago

I have a Kieninger 73 RK 80CM with Westminster chime. It was bought in Guam and the clock works are not attached to the grandfather case but encased in a wood box that attaches to the back of the grandfather case. Recently had a local store “clock expert” who has been in business for 40 years that worked on my clock for over 6 months, and he could not fix it, plus some of the parts (shut off chime rod and strike rod missing); it has been a horrible experience. Is it possible to send you my entire clock works with the wood encasement (not the grandfather case) and have the entire clock works replace?

Dana
Dana
3 months ago

Thank you for your response. I need to re-word my original message and ask if you can install a completely new works (not restore) into the wood encasement that I would send. The entire clock movement including chime block resides in my wood encasement that hooks to a screw on the back of the grandfather clock case (it is basically a wall clock that hangs in the grandfather clock case). I bought the grandfather clock with the clock works in Guam in 1973.
I believe the new clock movement would be your KIEN-RK series. After my ordeal with a local “clock expert” I do not have faith in having another local clock repair person to install the new clock works into my wood encasement.
Thank You

Patti Deug
Patti Deug
4 months ago

I have an old Original Kieninger 75 R 93cm that no longer works. I’m not understanding the hand shaft length, is that printed anywhere on the clock? Am I understanding these are no longer available? Is the replacement for this a single chime, Westminster clock only?

Tony
Tony
6 months ago

I have a grandfather clock with a Kieninger mechanism with 75 R 93 cm stamped on the back. What is the approximate age

John Autrey
John Autrey
9 months ago

Do Keininger movements KSU, RK, and SK series use the same chains? Are they interchangeable? The reason I ask is I can not find an RK series chain for sale but I can find SK series chains.

Jeff Hooley
Jeff Hooley
11 months ago

Can I buy the instructions for the installation of a Kieninger 79R 116 CM? I also see what seems to be a model number “1000=T”. This is for a partially assembled Hentschel grandfather clock. The movement is attached to the dial/hands but to nothing else. I was only able to get the chains on but it sits outside the clock. I don’t need the movement; but need help with the installation. Thank you.

Neal Beck
Neal Beck
1 year ago

so i am confused! i made my clock in 1974 and it has a 9/72 RK 93 cm. so can i get a replacement for this movement or not. the above information is confusing!

Mike Messerschmidt
Mike Messerschmidt
1 year ago

Just got a Kissinger with the Serial of 73 RK. 80CM.

I need weights an d a pendulum. The works look good after breakdown and cleaning . Can you show me the right weights and pendulum that will work with this cabinet and works? Stick or lyer.

Mike MEsserschmidt
Mike MEsserschmidt
1 year ago

The clock works has the number 73 RK 80 cm. The hand are 36mm.

But the replacement RK (new) shows a set of chime rods. My works only have a single chime rod set with 4 bars on the left side only with hammer only on this same side. In other words, the new works show opposing chime hammers hitthing chime bars on both sides. My is a single sided action.

Do I not have the as the replacement?

Mike MEsserschmidt
Mike MEsserschmidt
1 year ago

Thank you!

I think I will go with a stick pendulum as there is not very much room in the case for the larger bob.
The 80 cm is measured from the verge to the bottom of the bob,right?

I guess going a bit long is always a bit better than coming up a bit short.

kyle aniello
kyle aniello
1 year ago
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james was very helpful thanks guys.

sable rose
sable rose
2 years ago
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Quality movement!

otmarkapfhammer
otmarkapfhammer
2 years ago

I received the RK3693 movement and it does not fit the 4 posts its to be mounted on to the clock face. are the the right size back foot my face available?? Or what can I do to make it work. My clock is not a moonface, but a tempus fugit Thanks Otmar