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Urgos UW6/ series clock movement
Urgos UW6/ series clock movement had a mass production in the 1950’s through the 1970’s. It was a popular unit for shelf clocks and wall clock applications because it was compact and ran a short pendulum.
The spring driven Westminster movement runs for eight days on a single wind up. It chimes either Westminster only or three songs with triple chime.
Urgos UW6/ series is no longer made
These are no longer made but are still the best choice to go with a new clock movement if at all possible. Just having this movement alone puts the age 40 years old or more so it is time to replace it even if it works fine.
So if its giving issues on top of this fact it is just time to do something with it either way.
Hermle clock movement alternative
clockworks.com offers a Hermle unit that is of equal quality to replace the Urgoes UW6/ series. The replacement movement would not be plug and play and there are some things you need to do.
In the end if its able and willing to be done the clock will have a new movement of equal quality. The movement will run another 30 years with out much complaint and is not hard to put in. Instead of the typical same with same movement swap the extra steps you need to do are in the list below.
The Urgos conversion steps
The typical same with same movement swap instructions will be in an email upon purchase. These are the steps you need to do for the conversion aspect alone.
As it is going from an Urgos movement to a Hermle movement there are some additional concerns to address.
Clock dial incompatibility
The locations of the winding arbors on the Hermle movement are in slightly different than the Urgos UW6/ series. The holes in the clock dial face will not line up with this new movement to wind the clock.
The customer could cover the old winding holes somehow and drill new ones to wind the clock. A sticky back metal or cardboard round disk does the trick or another creative idea. It only needs something to cover the old holes and drill new ones into that same disk.
Potential dial solution
Clockworks.com does have them to offer in gold and about 4 inches round with sticky backside. Even better than this is to get a new dial for the new movement.
There are so many dial shapes and sizes it is not a guarantee the same looking dial is available new. Please email Clockworks.com a picture of the old dial with some basic measurements.
Clockworks.com will see if we have the same looking dial that we can drill out with new holes to wind the clock.
Possible clock chime block work
Some applications of this conversion requires some handling of the chime block and rods. It is not common, but sometimes you need to reverse the direction of the chime block inside the clock case.
The reason for this is because the new unit may or may not have the hammer heads on the opposite side. In order to avoid purchasing a new chime block reverse the direction of the old one.
Working with the chime block
Not only would you need to reverse direction but also reverse the order of the rods within the block itself. The shortest rod would need to be where the longest rod was and continue down the line like this. Again, this is not something that is commonly in need of doing.
The reversal is only done to avoid the purchase of a new chime block and save cost. If you do purchase a new one, it would have the rods in the correct order and you would only need to put it in the new direction.
UW6/ Series Pendulum hook up
The pendulum may not hook up to the pendulum leader on the new clock movement. The leader is the part that the pendulum hangs onto on the back of the movement.
The top hook of the pendulum may or may not fit the new movements leader. If becomes an issue clockworks.com offers an alternate top hook for the pendulum if its the wood stick style.
If the clock takes a brass rod pendulum instead you may need to get a new pendulum with the new movement.
The rest is easy
The old key will fit the new movement the same as it did before. Clock hands are good to use with the new movement just as they did also. The pendulum length will be close enough to be able to regulate the time keeping.
I have an urges 06056 movement that the spring broke on. Is there a replacement unit I could get?
This unit is no longer made new and not available.
We can provide a different unit than yours but the winding holes will not match your current dial winding hole configuration.
You would need to get a new dial, or drill different winding holes in the dial you now have and use our dial disk to cover up the old holes.
Would you like to continue? If so, please email a pic of your clock dial with the size of it so we can see if we have a dial that will look the same with the proper winding arbor configuration holes.
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have an Urgos clock number UW06061A. The other number on it is 666364. Can you advise how old it is? It is not running as I need a part to connect the pendulum (about 2 feet long) to the movement. What connection do I need?
This unit is no longer made new and not available. It is over 40 years old.
We can provide a different unit than yours but the winding holes will not match your current dial winding hole configuration.
You would need to get a new dial, or drill different winding holes in the dial you now have and use our dial disk to cover up the old holes.
Would you like to continue? If so, please email a pic of your clock dial with the size of it so we can see if we have a dial that will look the same with the proper winding arbor configuration holes.
Also some pics of the movement itself, some different angles. Please email this info to clockworks@clockworks.com
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have an Urgos Clock running on UW 6/36A movement. Everything is working except that it runs very fast – gaining about 15 mins in 2 hours even after setting the floating balance to the slowest & adding some weights onto it. Any advice?
Those balances were not of optimal design, and since has been improved on other made movements than Urgos. The one you have is over 40 years old and no longer available, these are 25 year movements at best usually. Best to convert it to the new one made by Hermle, however the winder locations will not be in the same spots. New dial is needed or use our dial disk to cover the old holes and drill new ones.
Dial disk =
https://www.clockworks.com/product/urgos-uw6-series-clock-dial-disk
Movement 350-020
https://www.clockworks.com/clock-movement/hermle-clock-movement-340.html
There is a slight chance you will need this also. Chimeblock Style A with 5 rods in 7.5 inch from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/clock-parts/clock-chime-rods-parts.html
Its a matter of three things that can happen with the chimeblock
1. you may need to reverse the direction of the chimeblock and the order of the rods in the block
2. The above wont be able to happen as the rods are immovable, there fore new one needed
3. your chimeblock is fine and pointed the right direction already
I think in your situation you will be the number 3 on that.
Your key / hands should be fine.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Hello,I have a howard miller grandfather clock that came with urgos 66020 triple chime movement. It stopped running and I recently installed a rebuilt urgos 66025 movement now the moon dial will not work.
The moon gear gets swapped from the old unit to the other unit. It is only on with a set screw. See the gear that is on the same tube as the hour hand, it has a set screw to remove it. This is the only thing that drives the gears on the back of the dial to spin the moon. The moon wont spin fast or anything only moves one notch twice a day
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Urgos UW66009 movement in Howard Miller 610-274 model is new replaced with what maker and model?
Please order the 66020 from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw66020-urgos-clock-movement
It is the same unit but with a new number name
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I need to let down the winding springs to rebush the hour & minute shaft? Is there some demonstration documented to disassemble the URGOS UW66009 movement?
Hi,
There is no specific bushing for that unit and those areas. Do not have an explosion diagram.
That 66009 number puts the movement over 40 years old. These are 30 year units at best. Time to replace that one, otherwise you will go in circles with it really.
Please order the 66020 from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw66020-urgos-clock-movement
It is the same unit but with a new number name
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I’m looking for a pendulum for a Urgos UW 6/14 A mantel clock – serial # 420978 dates from late 1960’s.
Any source available?
Sorry do not have the pendulum for that one.
James
I have a ugos 6/56a 407803 and need just a 1/4 chime barrel and spring is there a Hermle barrel and spring substitute
Hi
The movement parts or the movement itself is no longer available. Do not have this, but do have the conversion below
The Urgos UW6/56 is no longer in production and no longer available. We do however have a movement that is very close and equal in quality. They are produced in Germany by the Hermle company who was a direct competitor back in the day. The replacement unit for this one is not exactly the same but with a couple of modifications it will work and the clock will be back to normal. It will have another life expectancy of 30 years like your old one had.
Dial Issue
The dial you have now will have winding holes in different spots than the new movement requires. In other words it will not be a plug and play deal we need to resolve that dial issue. There are some options for this.
1. Cover the old holes with a dial disk we sell and drill new holes. The dial disk will come with dial grommets so the holes are pretty that you drill. $15 not on the site yet.
2. Maybe get a new dial with your new movement that we drill for you. This is not always possible. We would need a pic of your dial with some basic dims so we can see if we have a match to offer.
Either choice, its best to email a pic of the dial. This way we can make sure the dial disk will work with it or if we have a dial for it. Include the measurements how wide and tall also please.
A dial disk is 5 1/2 inches wide, sticky on the back and gold on the front. The idea is to cover the old holes in the dial with this. Then drill new holes in the dial for the new movement. Then use grommets to make your new holes pretty.
If the dial disk is too wide at 5 1/2 is it possible to cut it down less than this if you can cut a circle well.
The ChimeBlock
The chime block and rods by or may not have to be moved, or even reversed in direction. If reversed in direction then the rods themselves would need to be put into the reverse order. If it ends up needing a chimeblock we do offer them.
The 6/56 movement you have would be replaced with a Hermle unit 351-020 25cm.
This movement can be found at this link, be sure to select the 25cm option selected.
https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-351-020-clock-movement-by-hermle
If the pendulum is the wood stick style it will need a new top hook on it. It will need top hook B1 in 3/4 wide from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/clock-pendulum-top-hooks-for-wood-stick
The pendulum length maybe fine for the new movement, but if it ends up needing a new pendulum we have them to offer.
A brass rod pendulum for a 25cm hermle movement from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/hermle-brass-rod-clock-pendulum
Dial Grommets
https://www.clockworks.com/product/clock-dial-key-hole-grommets
Dial Disk 5 1/2 inch = Ill send it free if the above stuff purchased
Sorry those to not work that way. Need to remove the spring and measure to order it. Or send in the barrel alone for service.
Hole end mainsprings are at this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/hole-end-clock-mainspring
James
James