Urgos Clock Movement Identification
Urgos clock movement identification
Urgos Clock Movement units have identifications on the back plate of the unit itself. These movements are available new in only the floor clock models such as grandmother and grandfather clocks. This is the more involved way of getting to the correct new unit and takes some figuring out. The other way is just by the movement numbers and is in another section. This section is only for if the first way produces no results. The movement can match up by its attributes instead of the number system that can be tricky.
UW identification explanation
There are times that the Urgos Clock Movement UW number is not on the lists but is still available with a different name. A example being UW66016 is really a UW66018 but with a different name. Or UW32/1 is really a 32319 or even a 32001. This way just gets cuts out the movement numbers all together and gets down to what is needed with no numbers involved at all. Again need to mention that this way is only used after the first way failed in some way.
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Urgos clock movement UW series
The movements are separated in series. Each question on the drop down menus are explained in the text below. This will be matching up the movements qualities or attributes to get the new number of the same unit. Not all the conversions are listed in the chart so this is used to narrow down to the correct new unit. If it has not been done already please try the number conversion chart first. That is the fastest, most accurate, and easy to use method for getting a new movement. This information is another way of figuring out what the new Urgos clock movement is now called. The below movements are separated into series such as UW32 and UW03. This series only indicates the outer brass plate size, and this is how it is separated below.
Urgos UW32 Series
A square unit that has on the back plate UW32 and then some other numbers. Disregard what comes after the 32 for this style of identification. -Item UW32
1. Chime type
Westminster chime only or the three song options called triple chime are the chime types. The Westminster only with just have chime or silent at the 3 O'clock switch. The triple chime will have a choice of three songs and also silent at the 3 O'clock switch. If no switch at 3 O'clock it is Westminster only automatically.
2. Cable or chain driven
Weights hang from chains or cables. Wound by pulling chains or wound by a crank key on the cable driven units.
3. Hand Shaft Length
This is the measurement of the shaft that the hands go on, from the front plate of the movement and all the way out to the end of the minute hand nut threads. This is in mm but can convert to inches online if needed. Just type into a google search mm to in. The options are displayed on each movement series so all we have to do is figure out what mm length it has that matches.
4. Pendulum length
German units measure the pendulum length from the top of the movement and all the way down. That is all the way down to the bottom of the pendulum nut threads. This measurement is approximate and varies depending on bob diameter. (The bob is the round disk at the bottom of the pendulum). The larger the bob diameter is, the longer the pendulum is.
Pendulum lengths are typically indicated on German made movements by a CM number on the back plate. This measurement is based the length on a bob diameter of 4 1/2 inches / 145mm. When the list says for example 93cm it is referring to the complete pendulum assembly with a 4.5 bob. This includes the leader it hangs on, and also the suspension spring. All three components in one measurement provided in centimeters.
Pendulum Length to CM
- 27-30 inches, get the 80cm movement
- 31-34 inches, get the 93cm movement
- 35-37 inches, get the 100cm movement
- 38-40 inches, get the 110cm movement
- 40 plus inches, get the 116cm movement
Summery
Plug and play? Almost, but there are some things to do and instructions will be emailed. It is not hard to remove the old unit and put this new one in. After getting the hands and the dial out of the way really there are only two screws underneath that hold the movement in. All the other components such as the weights and pendulum hangs off of this mounted movement. The instructions explain all this anyway and if stuck just call or email clockworks.com. A new movement ready to go in a week for a fraction of the price of an overhaul. German made ready for another 30-40 years of service
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I have a urgos Uw 32068B series movement in an Ethan Allen Grandfather clock it’s missing two small screws that secure the what I assume to be dates above a moon dial. Do you have these screws available for purchase? Any idea of the age of the clock?
That movement is more than 40 years old. These are 30 year units at best, at this time restoration is needed or movement swap out with the new one. We have the new movement, it has a new name, the name is now 32319 and can be purchased at this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw32319-urgos-clock-movement
It is less cost, faster, lasts longer than even the best restoration on the old used one.
As for the numbers, with so many dial makers I would not know what screws and would not have them to offer anyway. Best to use clear epoxy to put the numbers back on. Only use the slightest amount of epoxy, otherwise it can get messy
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
No it’s not the numbers themselves. It’s the semi circle metal plate that sits above the moon dial it has three very small screws with corresponding holes that helps secure it to the face of the clock. It has one screw but I will get include a picture to see if that helps at all. Screws are at the 1 15 and 29.5 positions just under them. Very short length screws.
Clear epoxy this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/cuckoo-repair-clear-epoxy
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Hello. I have a Urgos 2 weight movement from early 1970s. The numbers I see are UW 7/75 and 431445. Is there a replacement for this. Thanks
The closest is the 241-033 85cm, with its side hammer. you would have to reposition the chime block. The hand shaft will be a hair shorter then yours so it may have to come in just a bit toward the dial. Your weights will be fine for the new movement. The new movement comes with chains. Your dial will be fine, same with your hands. You only need the movement and a new top hook for your wood stick pendulum, or a new pendulum complete. The 85cm will have an actual pendulum length of 29 1/2 inches off of the clock tip to tip.
Please order the 241-033 85cm from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-241-033-clock-movement-by-hermle
Please order a wood stick pendulum for a Hermle 85cm movement, with the bob diameter of your choice, at this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/wood-stick-pendulum-for-hermle-clocks
Weights are fine, the hands will work, the chimeblock used now can usually just be moved, The current dial can be used
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have an Urgos movement # UW32068B, in a Craftline grandfather case. The only other number I can see is directly behind where the penulum would hang, and is 1059444. Could you suggest a pendulum? The clock is missing the original. I still have the leader. Would that be a lyre or wood?
Please order a pendulum for as Urgos 100cm movement from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw-urgos-stick-clock-pendulum
or
https://www.clockworks.com/product/urgos-uw-lyre-style-clock-pendulum
You would need to select a bob diameter that is 4 inches smaller than the inside width of the clock case.
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have a grandfather clock and need a suspension spring , the #’s on the back are P.L. 116 and also a 8663 it’s a Urgos movement , can anyone tell me which spring I need
The Urgos 03 series requires these components for the top section of the pendulum assembly where it interacts with the movement. The pendulum assembly from the top down consists of the suspension spring that hangs from the top most post sticking out of the back of the movement. Then comes the leader that hangs onto the suspension, the leader is a sort of flat long bar that the pendulum actually hooks on to. So its the suspension on the top, the leader hangs on it, then the pendulum hangs on the leader with the pendulum top hook.
Suspension A3 from this link usually
https://www.clockworks.com/product/mechanical-clock-suspension-spring
Suspension B1 from this link rarely
https://www.clockworks.com/product/urgos-clock-pendulum-suspension
Leader B from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/urgos-grandfather-clock-leader
or sometimes
https://www.clockworks.com/product/kieninger-jauch-pendulum-leader
The pendulum top hook for a wood stick pendulum is available at this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/clock-pendulum-top-hook
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have a ridgeway with urgos movement 031018 A. And I can’t find the his number anywhere. Is there another number that replaces it.
Please order the 03101 from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw03101-urgos-clock-movement
It is the same unit, the 8 that you have at as the last number, is really a B, just ignore the B.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
The movement that I have has a tubular chime. Is it still the same?
Really, interesting. The chart maybe wrong, can I see some pics of this one? Please send them to clockworks@clockworks.com
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
We just acquired a grandfather clock and wanted to find out more about it. On the back plate it has UW03064B. URGOS 257033 made I Germany. Can you help us?
New number for the same unit is 03124 read all about it at this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw03124-urgos-clock-movement
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
hi there,
I have a UW32070D triple chime chain driven movement that needs either new bushings or replacement movement. apparently, it’s a Grandmother Movement. The clock face is pinned to the movement in four spots. The failure seems to be in the driven pivots/bushings. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks Doug
Seeing how that is an old number and now has a new number, that one is well over 30 years old. That 30 year mark is the absolute best for these units, time for the new one. I say that because the new one is 1/2 the cost of the restoration and lasts three times as long.
Please order the Urgos 32316 from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw32316-urgos-clock-movement
It is the same unit but brand new
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have a Howard Miller Model#610154 clock. I am not sure if it is a Grandfather or Grandmother. The works is a UW 32664 D. I need a new suspension spring. Your website shows 2. Which one is the correct one for my clock. Thank you
The two styles are very different. If the pendulum leader has a hook it will take the suspension A2 usually. If it has a rectangle hole it will take the other
Suspension A2 from this link usually
https://www.clockworks.com/product/mechanical-clock-suspension-spring
Suspension B2 from this link rarely
https://www.clockworks.com/product/urgos-clock-pendulum-suspension
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Thank you for the great info. Mine has the rectangular slots and the broken spring looks just like your B2 link photo. Thanks again.
I have an Urgos Clockworks UW303118 that I bought many years ago but never built a case for it, until now. Are there installation instructions for this clockworks available?
Is this the 9 tubular bell unit? The numbers do not jive
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have a Urgos UW32/45 B clock movement missing the pendulum leader, how do I determine the length of the leader?
The Urgos 32 series requires these components for the top section of the pendulum assembly where it interacts with the movement. The pendulum assembly from the top down consists of the suspension spring that hangs from the top most post sticking out of the back of the movement. Then comes the leader that hangs onto the suspension, the leader is a sort of flat long bar that the pendulum actually hooks on to. So its the suspension on the top, the leader hangs on it, then the pendulum hangs on the leader with the pendulum top hook.
Suspension A2 from this link usually
https://www.clockworks.com/product/mechanical-clock-suspension-spring
Suspension B2 from this link rarely
https://www.clockworks.com/product/urgos-clock-pendulum-suspension
Leader C from this link if the clock is old
https://www.clockworks.com/product/urgos-clock-pendulum-leader-2
If needing a leader for the new style, sorry do not have it right now
The pendulum top hook for a wood stick pendulum is available at this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/urgos-clock-pendulum-top-hook
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Is there a replacement for UW32003 B? If so, what is the cost?
Yes, please order the 32342 from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw32342-urgos-clock-movement
It is the same movement but with a new number / name
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have a UW 3203 B unit. w
What is the function of the center weight?
Time. It keeps the pendulum swinging
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I also heard that you purchased all of the Hermle parts and such from Butterworth, True?
Yes it is true
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have an Urgos UW66023 chain driven triple chime, what is the pendulum length needed for this model? Does Urgos have a replacement made by Hermle like some of the other models I’ve looked up?
No replacement for that one. Convert to 1161-053 is a possibility if the dial can be attached to the wood trim instead of to the movement. Will need a new pendulum top hook as well
Chase this conversion? Ill have some questions….
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
My Dad made a grandfather clock with us movement 03043B, serial # 211193, back in 1986. Recently it’s stopping at the same time. Does this mean the movement is worn? Or needs replacing,? Is this movement still available?
Yes most likely, they are 30 year movements at best before a restoration is needed on them. However the new one is less money, instant, problem free. Comes with instructions and support if you get stuck.
However this one is not on the list, so we need some information
Is this one triple chime (3 songs) or Westminster only?
Do the weights on the clock hang on cables or chains?
How long is the pendulum tip to tip when you take it off of the clock?
What is the hand shaft length from the FRONT PLATE of the movement all the way out to the end of the minute hand nut threads?
Need to know this, the dial comes off for this measurement I know there is stuff in the way but we need from the front plate of the movement. You know how the movement consists of two plates with gears in between? Well we need to know from the front plate out, how long the shaft is that holds the hands.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have an Urgos Grandmother clock that is having issues. UW 7/63. Also has this number on backplate 243539. Where can I find help with trying to get it working again and also trying to date and find information about this clock. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
30 – 40 yeas old, Urgos, 8 Day, German, chain driven, obsolete, typical life 30 years max.
New movement is best, but no longer made, we can convert to Hermle mechanical of Germany if you send some pics to clockworks@clockworks.com with this same question
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Trying to find the age of latest find it is Urgos PL116 and 3261 that’s all I can find on it. Thanks
Need to see this one, please email pics to clockworks@clockworks.com asking this same question
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have an obsolete 66027 and would like to know what the pendulum length prescribed is? Lost Pendulum.
Here is the link for the Urgos wood stick style clock pendulums
https://www.clockworks.com/product/urgos-uw-lyre-style-clock-pendulum
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
AWI / BHI / Lifetime NAWCC
Hi,
I do not know the answer, no chart with that info on it.
I would start with a good guess, and order a wood stick pendulum longer than your guess.
This way you can chop it down 2inches at a wack until its right
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
AWI / BHI / Lifetime NAWCC
We have a Grandfather clock with Urgos number 03012A. Is a replacement available?
Please order the 03096 from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw03096-urgos-clock-movement
It is the same unit with a new number name
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Hello,
I have a grandfather clock with Urgos 03011B movement. Recently it stopped to play the quarter chimes. On a quarter hour only a click is heard and no chimes. Like the movement in in auto synch mode but all the time. What could be wrong with it? What is the proper replacement model? Can it be replaced with a mechanism that has auto night off chimes?
These are 30 year movements at best anyway, yours is much older. Time to replace.
Please order the 03101 from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw03101-urgos-clock-movement
It is the same unit with the new number name.
James
Thank you. I have two more questions:
1. Correct. Unless 8 1/2 or wider bob diameter is used on the pendulum. This link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/polished-clock-weight
2. Clock oil. This link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/needle-pen-clock-oiler
https://www.clockworks.com/product/high-grade-nye-clock-oil
https://www.clockworks.com/product/keystone-clock-oil
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
My mother has a Ridgeway grandfather clock. Someone tried to wind it and knocked the pendulum off. When it fell it sheared off the rod at the end of the rating nut. Now I can’t adjust the time because there isn’t enough threaded rod below the pendulum bob. Any suggestions? It gains a couple of hours a week at the end of its adjustment range. It is an Urgos movement with no specs stamped on the movement.
What are the movement numbers off of the clock movement itself?
James
My Urgos UW326920 movement is running too fast. I have lengthened the pendulum to it’s limit, but the movement still runs too fast, picking up a couple of minutes every hour. The ratchet wheel teeth appear okay, but the ratchet paw (name?) seems to allow the wheel to advance two teeth during some sweeps of the pendulum. The ratchet paw appears to be made of plastic. I’m not able to see if the ratchet paw is worn without removal or disassembly of the movement. Can this be corrected by replacing the ratchet paw or the suspension spring?
Did it ever keep time with that pendulum? If so, the escape wheel is worn and advancing more than one tooth at a time when your not looking.
Best to get the new movement in this situation.
Please order the Urgos 32316 from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw32316-urgos-clock-movement
It is the same unit with a new number name
James
I have a urgo clock but don’t know what it is worth. Can you help or get me in contact with someone that can. Tried to post pictures but no luck
What are the movement numbers off of the back plate of the brass clock movement itself? Not off the paper work, and not off of the clock case please, needs to be off the brass. See identifications at this link
https://www.clockworks.com/clock-movement.html
James
My grandfather clock that I just purchased has UW 3/11 on the plate in back and also 61544 after the Urgos name stamp. Can you tell me it’s age? It runs perfectly and strikes the hour but the chiming doesn’t work. It makes an occasional chime and the mechanism moves better since I cleaned and oiled it but doesn’t produce the whole chime. Wondering if I can fix this. Can’t find specific info on Urgos.
Not sure, do not have the manual but if you have a specific question we can certainly help.
James
That unit is over 45 years old. They are 30 year units at best. Replace instead of restore, it is faster, a fraction of the price, same unit but new.
Please order the 03101 from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw03101-urgos-clock-movement
It is the same unit, with a new number name
James
So my clocks center weight drops like a rock. Other two weights run and drop normally clock chimes and strikes. Pendulum does not keep swinging of course. Looks like a gear is stripped smooth in the center weight assembly to me. In the back It says UW32685D and another number 1249351 URGOS MADE IN GERMANY. What can I get to fix this? It’s a ridgeway grandfather made in 1982.
The ratchet wheel for the time train is shot. For this to be corrected the movement comes out and disassembled. It maybe possible to get a junk unit and take both apart to fix one out of two units, but this maybe just running in circles.
The movement has an old number, so it is over 40 years old and time to replace it anyway. They are 30 year units at best before needing a restoration or replacement. Replacement is less money, faster, easier than an overhaul. It will last another 30 years instead of only a fraction of this with even the best restoration.
Best to order the new one all around.
Please order the 32333 clock movement as it is the same unit as your 32685, but with a new number name from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw32333-urgos-clock-movement
James
I recently acquired a Howard Miller Grandfather clock. I need a suspension spring, a key for the front door, and a leveling screw. Will Urgos parts fitit? thanks
Hello I have uw66009
Do you know the new movement number
Please order the 66020 from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw66020-urgos-clock-movement
James
We have an Urgos grandmother clock with pendulum. It has UW32068B on the back and 1227791. The pendulum and Bob was misplaced by our furniture removers and we want to replace it. Can anyone help me?
trying to replace urgos UW 06/36 Any ideas where to buy new or used
the uw 06/36 is no longer made. Repair only.
My son inherited a “Schippertje” (hanging clock with weights) with the following model number: UW 7/47 and 477069
It needs a new pendulum, as well as the part on which the pendulum hangs. Do you know where I could find these?
Suspension A2 from this link https://www.clockworks.com/product/mechanical-clock-suspension-spring
Leader C from this link if the clock is old https://www.clockworks.com/product/urgos-clock-pendulum-leader-2 If needing a leader for the new style, sorry do not have it right now
The pendulum top hook for a wood stick pendulum is available at this link https://www.clockworks.com/product/urgos-clock-pendulum-top-hook
James
I have a grandmother clock with a Urgos movement. It is UW03003B. Can you tell me what replacement movement can be used for this? Thanks
Hi
Please order the 03120 from this link https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw03120-urgos-clock-movement It is the same as the 3/3 but with a new name
James
Many Thanks !
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I have a urgus clock works UW6/36 A also 625027. Age? Worth $300 est for restoration? Thank you, pat
Do do offer the new unit conversion at this link https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw6-36-mechanical-clock-movement
A new unit is not much more than the repair estimate to shine up the approximately 45 year old movement.
Much better to go new on that one.
There is a catch however, the dial holes are different, please read all about it
James
Information on urgos grandfather clock movement, info on back plate 32942 and UW 3/5
https://www.clockworks.com/product/uw03096-urgos-clock-movement
i built a tabletop clock about 30 years ago including a Urgos UW64009 movement. i want to replace the movement but find no record or a similar movement>can you help?
Need some pics of that one emailed please to clockworks@clockworks.com
James
Can I see some pics of this one please?
James
is there a repair book available?
Not specifically but for clocks in general yes. What is the clock doing wrong?
James
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I have an Urgos mantle clock with pendulum It has UW65007 on the back and 6173 and I would like to know more about it i.e. it’s age and value. Can anyone help me?
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i need an Urgos movement for my Aaron willard reproduction banjo clock. do you know where i could find a set?
no longer made, restoration only on that one. To get a quote please email some pics
James
I need to find the age of this Urgos grandmother clock. The numbers on the back are P.L.116 and 24183.
Thanks,
Don
about 40 years old
Thanks for a really good article about URGOS and its markings.
I am glad it helped
James
Trying to find out what leader I need for grandfather clock with urgos parts the imprint is UW327370 and like to find out how old it is
That movement number is not quite right, But either way the older models usually take leader C and suspension spring A2 as seen at this link https://www.clockworks.com/clock-parts/clock-pendulum-parts.html For age approximation need the numbers rechecked.