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Kieninger clock movement identification
The identification process is the first step to replace a Kieninger clock movement or any other components. To begin with, start with the movement number in order to purchase a new clock movement and to see the price and what it includes.
Also, these numbers are essential to get compatible components for the clock. Examples of some components include pendulums, dials, hands, keys, cranks, chime blocks, mounting screws, weights, pulleys or chains.
Decoding Kieninger clock movements
For example, let’s say the movement numbers are 81 K 116cm.
- 1981 = If it is an on older unit, the 81 would be the year it was made. On new units this number is not the year but only an internal engineering code.
- K = The K is the movement series. This is the basic raw movement plate size and internal gear configuration.
- 116CM = This is the pendulum length, in centimeters, from the top of the movement all the way down to the bottom of the rating nut. This is true only for the smallest 4 1/2 inch bob diameter.
Dating the Kieninger movement
In the above description, 81 is the date, however this is not always true in later years. After a certain date that first number is no longer the date that it was made. Rather that first number became an engineering code that has nothing to do with the date.
So it may or may not be the date code, ignore this as it is not pertinent to replacing the unit. There is no longer a solid way to date the Kieninger clock movement unless there is a stamp on the back plate.
We can help
The new movement will fit into the clock case just as the old one did. Keep using the same components such as the dial, pendulum, chime block and weights.
If it is a weight driven clock it will come with the chime hammers as well as chains or cables. If this decoding process is confusing, just email the numbers or a picture to us. We are happy to help with figuring out the best course of action. Similarly, Kieninger clock movement questions and ordering can be done by phone as well.
Good evening.
My Westminster chime grandmother clock is not making any noise on the hour or on the 1/4hour. I am not sure why. It tells the time ok.
The unit has the stamp of the Kieninger name and then 7980 under the name on the left hand side. On the right side is says 80 but nothing else?
Any idea which model this might be so that I can find instructions on how to make it strike and chime please?
Thankyou.
Is this one chain driven or cable driven?
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
It uses a key to wind up springs.
There is also a single lever on the left hand side of the movement, when looking from the back, it lifts something up and down, although doesn’t stay where you put it, but returns to the same position.
I assumed this to be a night silencing mode?? There are no labels for on/off as some instructions indicate, just the lever on its own.
I would attach a picture of the movement but I don’t know how to!
It maybe to lift the strike hammers back so it will chime the quarters only
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have a Kieninger clock: MS 001; 116cm; 354418; sn 2100971249 which is mounted in a Howard Miller grandfather clock. It’s been carefully moved several times, kept clean and oiled. Now the clock stops 3 or 4 minutes after chiming. This is a random event, mostly after the top of the hour. The minute hand gets “stuck.” Sometimes the clock will work for several hours at a time. What position should the “silver” colored levers be placed for operation that are located behind the face place? 2 are on the lower inside of the front brass plate and 2 are located on the top . I’m baffled.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Try putting in beat =
https://www.clockworks.com/posts/mechanical-clock-movement-beat-setting
These are 25 year movements at best. If around this time mark best to get the new one. See this link for the Kieninger MS series with 116cm =
https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-ms-series-kieninger-clock-movements
Silver arms at 3 o clock are the chime song options. ON the 9 o clock side is the auto night shut off functions
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Clock dies not have night shut off feature. Only Westminister on or off.
Most Kieninger K and M series has ANSO, but the dial may not have the slot for this. Either way, with it or without will fit the same as replacement.
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have z Keninger MS 001 116cm. 354418. It is totally out of sinc since moving. Clook keeps time but the chimes are all out of sinc. Sometimes the minute hand gets “stuck” and the clock stops. I see 4 metal levers on the brass frame. How should they be positioned? This may be the problem.
These are 25 year movements at best, at this point its best to buy the new one. Please order the Kieninger MS series with 116cm from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-ms-series-kieninger-clock-movements
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Hi, is the KSU33 now upgraded to the KSU78 ?
YES, please order the Kieninger K series with triple / cable / 116cm = KSU78 (old KSU33) this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-k-series-kieninger-clock-movement
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
hello, I just found you while looking for info on a clock that we have and we have no idea its worth
Original Kieninger MADE IN GERMANY No (0) Jewels unadjusted is on the plate
What else does it say
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Hello! My friend and I have been trying for several months to find information about the clock that he discovered in his grandfather’s house and wants to restore. I am a student of the Faculty of History, and I have full responsibility for antiques. Could you tell me the year of manufacture of the watch with the engraving “original Kieninger 3827 43cm”? They also have an image of a gear and the letters J A K, but no other numbers or letters have been found.
J series was made approximately 1990 through 2010 about. It was not a good movement run, they had some issues it turned out.
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have a kieninger movement that has the number UV03038B A9K9 stamped on the back. Can you tell the age of the movement from this? Also it has Howard Miller 413575 stamped on the back in another location.
40 years old or more because it is an old UW number for the 03083 as seen at this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/03083-urgos-clock-movement
That one is Urgos instead of Kieninger
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
What is the name of the screw on the end of the straight brass rod?
Maybe a pendulum rating nut? Not sure what you mean.
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have a kieninger and obergfell clock made in Germany and have a number stamped on the back plate which is
13336 Can you help me to identify how old this Clock?
1910 – 1930 is a guess
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
My name Anatoli Viderman I have grandmaster clock modRWS 13 65 cm #2103682863 what year they made?
Still made today.
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have a Kieninger KSU 68 movement that has triple chimes and twelve hammers. it plays the Westminster, Whittington, and green sleeves. I am looking for information on how to set up the sequence of the chime hammers, so they start out on the correct note
The easiest way to start off is the first quarter of westminster. If this first quarter is good, all songs are good. The first quarter of westminster goes down the line 1-2-3-4-5 whatever, from shortest rod to longest in order.
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have a Kieninger SKS13
116cm, 354 574 and am trying to find a center chain for it. I have been having a bit of trouble finding the right place to find one?
45LPF chain for SKS this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/grandfather-grandmother-clock-chain
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
hi – I need help dating this 9 jewel Keininger RWU04 clock. 0500304946 is the serial? number.
Not sure on that one
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
My daughter gave me a Mason Sullivan clock with a Kieninger 76, triple chime, 12 hammer, chain drive works for Father’s Day. I oiled the works and was successful in running it for the past three days. I now have three minor problems. The chimes run VERY fast. The four melody are a blur when they run. Is there a way to slow them down. Can the chime hammers be raised a little. I am using the on/off lever to raise them ever so slightly to get an acceptable tone. The last issue is the gears for the moon face drive do not mate. The gears on the clock or the moon disk are approx 1/32 to long, so they ride alongside of each other. I would like to find the correct gearing for this feature. I did remove the gear on the faceplate to stop the rubbing and potentially stopping the works. If these gear are original to the works, it has been doing this since new.
The moon gear, the movement, the dial, none of these things are made anymore. That movement is made in 1976 these are typically 40 year movements only before total rebuild or replacement is required. Suggestion is disconnect the moon, oil it, run it until it will not run, then get the conversion at this link for the new unit
https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-h-series-kieninger-clock-movement
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have a clock that I purchased and assembled in 1986 from the ST Charles Clock Company. The works are Kieninger, made in Germany. It has at least one pivot point that is worn out, with gear and pivot dislodged. I would like to purchase a replacement assembly, but need help with identification of my current clock works, and which to order. The information that is on the back of the works are
Original Kieninger
Made in Germany
No (0) Jewels unadjusted
01 P 65 cm
26,6 (on small, paper sticker)
The clock is a Regulator, approximately 46 inches tall, with a pendulum and a single hammer chime
Can you help? Thanks, Rick
Those are 25 year movements at best, yours is way older. Time for the new one. Please order the Kieninger P series from this link in 65cm
https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-ps-gong-kieninger-clock-movement
Will need to measure the post that the hands go on, from the front plate of the movement and all the way out to the end of the minute hand nut threads. Will be either 32mm or 36mm
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Ordered and replaced a KSU78 MOVEMENT (ORDER # 353095 summer ’23) . Works wonderfully. Last week, the hour strikes just never stopped. The movement would start chiming the hour correctly, but never stopped. Would go until weight reached the bottom of the clock.
Suggestions on where to look for this strange behavior?
Thanks
Mark in Oregon
Both chime and strike words used, please advise if quarterly chimes forever or hourly strike is forever
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Hourly strike is forever. Thanks
See this link in the issue
https://www.clockworks.com/posts/grandfather-clock-strike-quantity-correction
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Hello
I have a Kieninger mechanical mantle clock that is running fast, but I can’t figure out how to adjust the speed. I suspect it is the black metal toggle visible in the picture beneath the spring timing mechanism. However, when I tried to loosen the screw holding the toggle in place it would not budge. I am afraid to keep trying unless i am certain that is the correct adjustment point. Would you please let me know if this is correct or how to adjust the speed if it is something else? Thank you.
No, it is not the black bar with the screw. It would be a lever that pulls or pushes the hair spring instead. Cant see it from this pic.
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I figured out the issue at my end. Here is a better picture, hopefully it shows what needs to be adjusted. Thank you.
Balance Clock Movement Timing is done fairly easy. There are three types of clock balance movement styles post 1950. This section is for those balance units that do not have a platform escapement.
The platform escapement can be read about in another section. These notes are only for the larger balance wheel in the top center of the clock movement.
For example, movements in the Urgos 6/ series and many of the Hermle clock movements. Hermle movements such as 340-020 and 350-020. Out of these, two styles, the old style and then the new style.
Use of the old style was all through the 70’s and 80’s and 90’s. Around this time there was a switch to the new style on the Hermle units. By this time the Urgos units were out of production.
The old style
The old style is one with a round spring that goes up and down (Vertical). It goes in a circle around the center arbor of the balance wheel. In this style there is a slide arm with a tiny weight on the balance wheel itself. There is a + and – on the wheel. To speed up time go towards the plus sign.
However this style is not always easy to regulate and can be very hard to get it perfect. The factory has special devices to make it perfect. However it’s not that easy on the customer end with this style balance. For this reason it has been improved upon during future manufacturing.
If the old style balance then the clock movement has some age to it. If this is the situation it is just best to replace the unit with the new one. Clockworks offers the movement brand new with the new style balance for less than the cost of a cleaning.
The clock movement has lasted 25 years or more. In theory the new unit should last more than this with the improved aspects.
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Again, thank you very much! I may eventually give up and replace what I have but for now I enjoy trying to sort it out. I appreciate the information you shared with me. Thank you.
I have a Kieninger grandfather clock that needs weights misplaced while in transition
What are the numbers off of the back plate of the clock movement itself? If it is hard to get to, usually you can stick a cell phone up behind the movement and get a picture of the numbers. Or through the side access panel if there is one.
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have a howard Miller clock andf they do not know who made the movement. the movement is stamped:
86 Made in west germany
1151-053HS
94cm
66.00
Do you know this movement?
8 day / german made / chain driven / triple chime / by Hermle clock company / made in 1986
For sale new at this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-1151-053-clock-movement-by-hermle
Ignore the HS
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I need help identifying the correct movement replacement for my grandfather clock. Sligh, 06K100cm
Please order the Kieninger K series from this link with triple / cable / 100cm
https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-k-series-kieninger-clock-movement
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I just purchased a Kieninger & Obergfell westminster grandfather clock made in Germany with the following number below the Kieninger & Obergfell name on the brass plate: 2899. I may be needing parts. Can you tell me the date it was made and what do I need to provide to ensure correct parts? Thank you in advance, Dan Ford
What are the numbers off of the back plate of the clock movement itself? If it is hard to get to, usually you can stick a cell phone up behind the movement and get a picture of the numbers. Or through the side access panel if there is one.
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
The only number as stated in my original message is “2899” and is just below the marking “made in Germany”. Thanks in advance. Dan Ford
Shall need some pics of this one, the number is not known.
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Hi James I have sligh grandfather clock with a kieninger 02 k 116cm…..I found this clock at a salvage yard for $150…..the case cleaned up beautifully albeit with at few blemishes..
With the works, I noticed that the cables were overlapping on the drums, I was able to release the drum lock and remove cables, upon reinstalling cables on drum and winding to the overwind lock, I have about a 7” cable loop with the weight wheel on under the movement, is this too long or do I need to adjust the overwind gear to allow the the weights to travel closer to the clock works base? What would the correct distance
I cleaned and oiled as you have suggested here on your excellent website…..clock is working amazingly.
Sorry to be long winded! Appreciate your insight
Thanks Jeff
7 inches is a about right, or maybe alittle less, whatever makes the weights not bonk anything in the upper levels. As far as the stop works, if you have the UP set right to stop where you want, the down will take care of itself.
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Thanks James for the prompt reply and info, I will let the clock run for a week and is if I get the 7/8 days of operation before rewind time.
Truly appreciate your website…..wealth of information for us want a be clockmakers!
Jeff
What clock mechanism do you recommend to replace a vintage 1968 Mason & Sullivan L50T clock mechanism????????
I built the walnut clock case in 1967 from plans sold by Mason & Sullivan, Osterville, Mass.. I bought & installed the clock mechanism L50T from Mason & Sullivan in 1968. Though difficult to see & read, the back plate of the mechanism contains only the following: Original Keininger, Made in Germany, a ‘gear wheel icon’ inscribing an A over letters KC and below the aforesaid info are what appears to be 12/71.
The mechanism is a chain-weight powered triple chime; selection of Westminster, St. Michael, and Whittington chimes.
The mechanism has been oiled annually but it has never been cleaned.
The clock ran faithfully from 1968 to November 2023 when it stopped on its own.
Repair or Replace time ???………………Warren
Though difficult to see & read, the entire back plate of the clock movement contains only the following: Original Keininger, Made in Germany, No (0) jewels unobluafeh (my guess at letters), a ‘gear wheel icon’ cotaining an A over letters KC and below the aforesaid info are what appears to be numbers 12/71.
That is an H series as we used to have here
https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-h-series-kieninger-clock-movement
However this one is no longer made. We can restore yours instead, if you would like to send it in. Would you like details on this? All we would need is the movement alone as we have everything else as far as pendulums weights and so forth to test
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Yes, I would like to receive/review your details, including estimate of cost, for restoration. Thank you in advance.
These are typically 30 year movements at best. Time to replace.
What are the numbers off of the back plate of the clock movement itself? If it is hard to get to, usually you can stick a cell phone up behind the movement and get a picture of the numbers. Or through the side access panel if there is one.
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
What are the numbers off of the back plate of the clock movement itself? If it is hard to get to, usually you can stick a cell phone up behind the movement and get a picture of the numbers. Or through the side access panel if there is one.
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
i have a grandfather clock 04 k 116 cm how old is it and can i get parts
Not sure of the age, could be 2004. What do you need for this one ?
James Stoudenmire
40yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Just bought a used Kieninger Mechanical Mantle clock # 340-020 with 71 above those numbers .It rings on the quarter hour as it should but rings 3 hours ahead of the actual time at the top of the hour. It look just like the Vintage Bulova Tempus Feugit Westminster Chime 340-020 Mechanical clock with a key. Can you help me?
Made in 1971, these are 30 year units at very best, yours is over 50
Please order the 340-020 from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-340-020-clock-movement
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
looking for any details for a Keininger clock 2465
What are the numbers off of the back plate of the clock movement itself? If it is hard to get to, usually you can stick a cell phone up behind the movement and get a picture of the numbers. Or through the side access panel if there is one.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
the only stamped writting is on the back is “made in germany 2465”
Seems like a Kieninger H series. What do you need for this one ?
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have a Kieninger grandfather clock, movement is k 116 cm. I have the movement out for oiling, and the weight cables are kinked. what do I need to replace these, and how do I release the current cables so I can unwind and remove them (they have the plastic clear cover over the wound cable). clock was purchased in 1985.
Kieninger cable at this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/genuine-replacement-cable-for-grandfather-clocks
Help putting it in at this link
https://www.clockworks.com/posts/changing-a-clock-cable
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Hello,
Our Howard Miller Trieste grandfather clock has the following engraved on the back of the clock movement device:
Kieninger
Made in Germany
0219960715
Are you able to tell me the age of the clock and what the serial number means? Does the age matter?
Thank you,
marty
Cannot tell by that number. Yes age matters but only because old oil becomes solid and wears the plates. These usually run 25-40 years before worn out and to get the new one or rebuilt. Of course the new one is less money than restoring the old, and lasts longer, get it quicker back.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Thank you!
I have a limited edition 1987 Ridgeway Bicentennial grandfather clock that needs two weights. Also where is the movement id number
What are the numbers off of the back plate of the clock movement itself? If it is hard to get to, usually you can stick a cell phone up behind the movement and get a picture of the numbers. Or through the side access panel if there is one.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I am working on a Menninger two weight 8 day clock movement. The existing weights are1583 frames each. The strike is extremely slow and will sometimes just stop mid strike. Every bushing has been replaced and all privets are perfect. The owner tells me the clock has always been a very slow striker. I’m thinking maybe the weights are not original and not heavy enough. How would I know if they are original.
Not sure, do not have the specs on that one. That would be my guess also though
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Just acquired a kieninger clock stamped with AJK (maybe) Original Kieninger
Made it Germany
No adjusted
4 / 70
What model and age would this be?
Sounds like an H series, these were most popular 40 years ago or so
https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-h-series-kieninger-clock-movement
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have a movement given to us in 1960. an Original Kieninger with a circle an A with a shovel. and hammer . engraved small numbers are 84614. other number are 30361F. Any info on thisWhat would you like to know about this one?
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
What does it mean when a Kieninger stops at the same time every time it will run for an hour and the next hour it stops at 12 minutes to the hour.
Sounds like a tooth in a gear that rotates once an hour, that is worn or bent.
What are the numbers off of the back plate of the clock movement itself? If it is hard to get to, usually you can stick a cell phone up behind the movement and get a picture of the numbers. Or through the side access panel if there is one.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
What if it doesn’t say none that just the stamp tiny cursive original kieninger
And under that says 89039
Is it a large movement that is chain driven?
Most likely H series if so. You can email pics of this one if you like to clockworks@clockworks.com and ask this same question
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
HI, I have a mason & sullivan Grandfather clock the movement is a TU240 Moon dial 5 tubes 3 weights chain driven Westminster chimes lyre pendulum the only markings on the front plate is the number 74 Original Kieninger with a seal stamped on the plate no jewels unadjusted, This movement is supposed to have a swing of 10.25 inches it only moves 3 inches and runs fast like 14 minutes in 24 hours it has never kept good time no madder what is done to the pendulum. When it was new I took it the Mason & Sullivan co. at 39 Blossom AVE Osterville Cape Cod Mass 02655. The clock technician mounted it on the work rack the anchor arm started moving and he said there is nothing wrong here the movement it is fine. So for 25 years or so I have adjusted the time as needed. spent most of it’s life stopped. Any help here would be greatly appreciated. To the point of offering a replacement movement. I would like to know why the swing of the pendulum is only 1 inch
Yes that is the obsolete 5 tube Kieninger unit, we restore many of those because they are no longer made. We could offer an Urgos unit that will fit pretty easy also. The age is most likely around 50 years old on that one.
To slow time you only need a longer pendulum. In some instances if the advancement is excessive, it could be a worn escape wheel and when ever your not looking it goes tick tick tick tock tock tock instead of the standard tick tock like it should be.
We can swap it for the Urgos new unit, we can restore that one for you, you can buy a longer pendulum and try that instead and just oil it.
What is your pleasure
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
how do you oil a kieninger clock movement with three moving weights
Tiniest drop of oil where ever one thing spins or rubs another, is fine.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Morning i have a Kieninger chime clock has a serial No 316499 and 13CM stamped on the bottom of the workings. It was a gift to my Mother in 1956.It is 142cm long 20cm high and 13cm wide. Also has two winding holes in the front. Can you please give me any information about this clock
All I know is it is obsolete and no longer made. Made in Germany, 8 day, spring driven, time and strike clock movement
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
I have a Grandfather clock which I have not been able to indentify. The information stamped on the back of is: Original Kieninger Made in Germany No(0)Jewels unadjusted.
On the other side of the back plate is 06 K 100cm plus your Stamp.
Yours Sincerely, Harold.
Queensland, AUSTRALIA.
Hi,
Please order the Kieninger K series with 100cm selected from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-k-series-kieninger-clock-movement
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Hello:
I have a mantle clock that I think is a Kieninger model? Do not see any name markings other than a hand engraved number of KC8888T in small format on the chime frame end plate. Looking for any insight.
May be a KC? No idea I am not versed in clocks.
Hi,
Sorry to say that one is no longer available new. We can overhaul this one if you like, we only need the movement alone sent in. We can tell you how to remove it and reinstall it, help you along the way. When its done and installed it will run for years.
We start with this =
CLEANING AND OILING FOR ONLY $150
We have the best and most expensive tooling, cleaning equipment, and cleaning solutions. There is no expense spared by us when it comes to having the best equipment. With this factor and 3 generations of clock repair expertise, you can rest assure your clock works will be in the best hands it can be in.
For this unit, we will take the movement in, unpack it, and then clean it and inspect it for $150. If it passes inspection, we will oil it and test it. If this is all that is needed that is all it will cost is the $150 plus the shipping back to you. The initial $150 is non refundable and is the fee for the cleaning, inspection, and oiling and testing only. We do need to be paid for our time on this even if the clock movement is deemed unrepairable for some reason.
Please let us know if you are interested in this service by filling out the repair form at this link, https://www.clockworks.com/clock-repair-service.html because it would be an absolute pleasure to get this one shiny and working again.
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Best to ask this question by email clockworks@clockworks.com with some pics of the movement itself so I can ID the unit
James
KSU60 116 CM 354 411
Hi,
We offer these Kieninger K series clock movements
https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-k-series-kieninger-clock-movement
James
I’m looking for a chime barrel for a traditional oak wall clock. States Kieninger on dial but there is nothing on movement apart from 35 cm.
It’s Westminster on 4 plus 4 rods.
I’m sure that it is all original.
Did they use movements made by other manufacturers ?
Best to email some pics of this one to clockworks@clockworks.com and ask again in that way. So I can see the unit
James
I have a K series 116 cm cable movement that keeps good time and chimes appropriately. It does not strike a consistent progression of hours. One time it may strike 5 and the next strike might be 8. Any thoughts?
This have to do with the mechanics in the front part of the movement, behind the dial. The best way to learn the mechanics of these components is to simply watch them in action.
When getting to the front of the movement by removing the dial, observe the racks motion during the strike. The rack is the saw like thing that drops down onto the snail looking thing that is part of the hour hand tube. If the rack is not connecting to the snail in a proper way, the strike will not strike the proper amount of times.
If the clock is striking the wrong number of hours some hours and not all, the snail (hour tube) must be turned slightly so the rack will fall on the snail’s humps correctly. The C clip comes off the gear it meshes with, so the hour tube can come up some and over the teeth of the other gear. The goal is to have the snail fall in the center of the hump instead of off to the side of it. If the clock strikes 12 and 1 oclock ok, then the rest will be fine.
If the rack is getting stuck on anything or if it falls behind the hour tubes “snail”, then the clock will strike the same amount of times every time, forever or some number beyond 12 times. It can fall behind the snail by changing hands, since the hour tube has the snail on it, it moves forward upon removing the hour hand. This can cause the rack to fall behind the snail and therefore does no good for counting strikes like it’s supposed to. The fix is to lift this rack with your finger and push the hour hand tube back so the rack falls on it.
My Kieninger has just stopped after 33 years since purchase in 1988. Its code number is 03 K 100cm. What movement number is equivalent to that
Please order the Kieninger K series with Triple chime, Cable driven, and 100cm options selected from this link
https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-k-series-kieninger-clock-movement
James
Once upon a time, Empire Clock sold a package containing a Kieninger wall movement. Their catalog item was 151-10-822, and was close to $1k. Is that package available anywhere today?
Not available anymore as the movement nor the dial is being made. Hermle is the way to go these days for that type of clock instead of Kieningr.
This kit
https://www.clockworks.com/product/westminster-vienna-regulator-clock-kit
OR this one
https://www.clockworks.com/product/mechanical-westminster-vienna-clock-kit
Are the closest it comes to the one your speaking of
James
Hello, I have been trying to identify a grandfather clock movement. I just bought this clock and it needs some parts for the pendulum. Plus I would really like to know more about the clock. Does anyone recognize the attached clock? I cannot find any numbers or markings on it. I can provide other views including the whole clock if that would help. Thanks in advance if anyone can assist.
Sorry the email address of my first comment goes wrong so I post it again…
This resembles an early urgos mvt., and is of UW03…. series.
Please email pics of the back of the movement to clockworks@clockworks.com for identification
James Stoudenmire
30yr Clockmaker
Author of Clockworks.com
Looks like an Urgos UW03 series clock movement to me.
https://www.clockworks.com/clock-movement/urgos-clock-movement.html
But you can be sure by getting the movement numbers off the back plate and seeing this link
https://www.clockworks.com/clock-movement.html
If I remember right the leader is this one
https://www.clockworks.com/product/urgos-grandfather-clock-leader
And the suspension is usually this one, not always, grandfather sized big
https://www.clockworks.com/product/urgos-clock-pendulum-suspension
James
I have a Kieninger clock with a number “106068” stamped under the name “Original Kieninger “
What year was it made?
After 1950 is all we know on that one. Most likely 1970s
James
Good evening, I have a Kieninger grandfather clock that I picked up at a garage sale this weekend, one of the pallets has broken off of the pendulum anchor, it looks replaceable as the pallets have set screws holding them into the anchor. The other issue is the pendulum suspension spring is sheared off, aside from these two things and the weights being over tightened which I was able to correct, it’s in decent shape.
I’m trying to find replacement parts for it. The only identification is on it is “Original Kieninger” and 12/66 also what looks to be a logo for Kieninger. What does this 12/66 mean? December 1966? What parts should fit this? I would like to be able to get it working again.
Thanks.
Best to email some pics of this one. Sounds like an H series if its chain driven with three weights. 12/66 is most likely the date, not sure until it is seen. Clockworks@clockworks.com is where to email pics
Thank you !
Clockworks Team
I have inherited a 82 R 80cm. Unfortunately the weights were lost at some point. Can you help me identify which weights go with this clock, and where I can get a replacement?
Thanks
Grant
Please email a photo or provide the movement numbers off the back plate of the clock to Clockworks@clockworks.com
See this link for help finding your movement numbers:
Identifying a mechanical clock movement — https://clockworks.crisp.help/en/article/identifying-a-mechanical-clock-movement-88buzj/
Thank you !
Clockworks Team
I have inherited a keininger skeleton clock with S 81 on the movement what does this mean
Hi
Does this mean you need a new pendulum or are you looking for parts to a current pendulum?
Wood stick or Lyre style pendulum ?